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Post Post #7625 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:20 pm

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In post 7622, Firebringer wrote:i personally don't think mechanics should be relied on to win games
The scumteam literally relied on Sakura's role to win though, lol. I'm not saying that town could solve the game on mechanics, but they could at least ask some tough questions, most notably why Sakura was never targeted by scum's kill, roleblock, redirect, vanillaize, or strongman.
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Post Post #7626 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:20 pm

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Yeah, scum not doing something about Sakura is the biggest asterisk in the game
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Post Post #7627 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:21 pm

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I had horrible fakeclaim which is basically "Uh enchant you are DisLoyal Vig but you need to quess flavor" and i stuck in thinking what Gamma could done at points of game (which i had no way possible to fabricate). Getting vigged is probably my best achievement in this game.
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Post Post #7628 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:22 pm

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In post 7626, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yeah, scum not doing something about Sakura is the biggest asterisk in the game
never raised a flag for me
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Post Post #7629 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:25 pm

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I don't think your fakeclaim is horrible to be honest, just that it would have taken a solid 3-4 hours of backtracking to reverse engineer viable target selections for

Basically I'm telling you not to claim the roleblock because it allows you to use it fully proscum and also to claim something that likely doesn't reach lylo but is also almost never elimed early and to try to bring down Ydrasse

Redirector claims redirect because it's an absurd power role, you get to use the vanillaizer as a purely proscum action, and by outing it and possibly giving Taly his IC status you can keep the role alive to play disruption all game. Queen is actually the 'best' role that scum has given that Sakura's is very feast or famine.
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Post Post #7630 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:26 pm

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I just don't think your fakeclaim is easy to play, is more of what i think is valid than 'my fakeclaim was bad'
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Post Post #7631 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:29 pm

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Shout out to Gmo having the easiest fakeclaim in the game

-target person who is widely townread
-person gets fruit and lives and is not roleocked
-person dies later on a night they weren't given fruit
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Post Post #7632 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:31 pm

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Also since you're fully disposable as Rundas you can just yolo claim a guilty on whoever the fuck you want and take out a townish slot
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Post Post #7633 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:31 pm

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GMo was fine outside of the TMI slip, imo.
Idk why he did that.
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Post Post #7634 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:32 pm

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I'm not really criticizing play I'm more just explaining the synergy as i envisioned it in an optimal game
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Post Post #7635 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:32 pm

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I can't believe a TMI slip actually happened. U think those things are just fairy tales
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Post Post #7636 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:32 pm

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Horrible not meant bad... well not in this sense, it just didn't help me at all.
It would be easy... If i played from start or Gamma left fake actions. Or taked some time, but... Work. Nah...
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Post Post #7637 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:33 pm

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I've actually posted in game thread instead of scum PT before
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Post Post #7638 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:33 pm

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U know the worst thing about this game?
I am going to still see people claim things like TMI slips more often and point to this game as an example.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #7639 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:33 pm

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Beta work vs Chad letting Sakura do all the work
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Post Post #7640 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:41 pm

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also scumbag creature

need you to spew us town? nowhere to be seen
cleared in mylo? shows up in scum PT "HEY GUYS HOW CAN WE SOLVE THIS GAME"
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Post Post #7641 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:53 pm

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In post 7520, RadiantCowbells wrote:I choose me! (Self-Targeting): You compulsively target yourself every night in the game, in the same way you chose to pick yourself.
Friendly! (Friendly Neighbour): Your target will learn that you are town-aligned.
this is the most hilarious role I've ever seen
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Post Post #7642 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:54 pm

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In post 7641, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 7520, RadiantCowbells wrote:I choose me! (Self-Targeting): You compulsively target yourself every night in the game, in the same way you chose to pick yourself.
Friendly! (Friendly Neighbour): Your target will learn that you are town-aligned.
this is the most hilarious role I've ever seen
related question:
rc did u not tell Taly he was town every night cause otherwise i think u mod lied
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #7643 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:56 pm

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Post Post #7644 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:57 pm

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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #7645 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:00 pm

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In post 7639, RadiantCowbells wrote:Beta work vs Chad letting Sakura do all the work
Hey man you give us a role that can win us the game singlehandedly, we're gonna use it. :P
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Post Post #7646 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:02 pm

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do you guys want to see some cool screenshots where i yell at fb for being a demon fox scum
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Post Post #7647 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:03 pm

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In post 7646, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:do you guys want to see some cool screenshots where i yell at fb for being a demon fox scum
yes please.
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Post Post #7648 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:04 pm

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also random: stop giving townies vigs that work on d1. they dont deserve it.

townies will always use it in the worst way possible and ruin the game for the people who are in the game.

it's just not a good role.

we lost a whole mislim on d1 because of a person who didnt want to be patient with their role. its just obnoxious as hell when it happens and ive never won a game where a townie uses a vig on d1 outside of chat mafia where its an intended setup design thing.
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Post Post #7649 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:06 pm

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it was funny as fuck tho
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