open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[catboi]

I don't see 1903 coming from maf, like, something about the way I read it, if someone who SRs you wants to talk with me about why you're maf, I'd be happy to discuss why I think you're town, but yeah. I'm pretty sure you're town. Should I be SRing you?

that's literally just a quotewall reply though

I've been okay with you being seemingly universal townread I just think this is not a great way to read me or anything

so you're maf?

No I'm just saying the stuff you're reading me for isn't a good heuristic

[Andante]

how are you possibly thinking i'm scum with sleepless, i'm actively pushing him >.>

and i was just thinking he wanted to catch up on the whole game first, we'd probably be waiting a while which seems silly since he's said he's actually read the wall, he can just say what he thinks about it

I've been thinking it for a while lol, I guess you just ignored the first time I said I SRed the 2 of you

Why would SS be catching up on the whole game? he's been here...

[skitter30]

so, uh, why am i voting/pushing/attempting to wagon my partner again ... ?

[Something_Smart]

if skitter is maf, it is with sleepless. that is one thing I'm confident in

this list just confirmed my suspicions there

excuse me what, how could SA's reads affect the probability of skitter-scum/SA-town? That doesn't make sense.

[Something_Smart]

not sure SS posts this as scum

why not?

[Andante]

i don't see it

you see maf writing 1903? and like the amount of effort catboi is giving? like I'm pretty sure he's not maf

1. posts like that aren't a significant amount of effort, as it is I feel like I'm running on fumes because I've overextended myself

2. you're going to get about half the people in the game telling you that effort is a nulltell for me

Yes, I know you've said you've overextended yourself or whatever, you'r busy, ok, I get it, and rather than just sit there only talking about how far behing you are/whatnot, you're saying stuff like "I still think midwaybear's posts like 1542, 1550 are fine and don't get where the scumreads are coming from" which is like opposite from everyone it feels like, I already voiced that I don't understand midway SRs, so seeing you here like "yoo why is there a SR on this person?" feels like it genuinely comes from town. Not sure why I'm not allowed to tr you. You want me to sr you. Cake wants Dats to sr him.. are we playing reverse maf or something?

[Something_Smart]

actually this reaction is ass I take back what I said earlier about SS

yeah there it is

[catboi]

SA's wall seems very town. I can get more into that if people think it would help.

Lemme catch up first. Then I will.

Why can't you just talk about it now?

[Something_Smart]

Because I wanted to catch up first...?

[Andante]

if skitter is maf, it is with sleepless. that is one thing I'm confident in

this list just confirmed my suspicions there

excuse me what, how could SA's reads affect the probability of skitter-scum/SA-town? That doesn't make sense.

guess I'm explaining that thought process tonight

[Andante]

@andante i mean i agree, i'm just saying i *can* see a universe where town-him got stuck in catch-up mode and never managed to get out of it
all in all i do still scumread him tho

pedit >.>

^So here it was like "I do still scumread him" like, there hasn't been much of a push from skitter, skitter was not voting sleepless, so in my head I'm like "you SR someone, but are neither voting them, nor doing anything about it? feels like something you'd say about a partner"

pedit >.>

Hey that's not Beetlejuice. There have only been a few posts since I woke up

Their interactions read as scum theater/one partner talking to another, I haven't seen 1 interaction between them I liked

Skitter - Something feels different this game but can't figure out what. Maybe its just that she's pressuring me this time.

And this like backs up my thoughts on "one partner talking to another" like, up until this stuff I've been like "yeah skitter town!!!" but skitter's interactions with/around Sleepless feel so awkward. awkward enough to make me reconsider my skitter TR, I was gonna look into why people were SRing skitter, but I was not a fan of this stuff. For Sleepless's "Read" on skitter to be "idk" after that wall post? yeah.. no. that's a maf read on a partner

[skitter30]

again, literally voting him, pushing him, trying to wagon him when i have like six other people i could be pushing, but ok. like you realize my vote is presently on him, right?

also again i think sleepless's pooky read is a quintessential read on a partner

[Andante]

yes, I saw your vote went on after all that, I'm not even going your way today cause you're top of draft, but I do genuinely believe sleepless to be maf here, and that's all I care about, cause it's not like I live to tomorrow anyways, just giving the occasional thought I have, and trying to just stay out of people's way

[midwaybear]

tiger wanna vote midwaybear together with me?

fool me twice...

VOTE: midwaybear

i still really don't want to kill the best town player on d1 (yes that is a real thought i have as town too) but ya idk what my tiger read is anymore

bruh

[skitter30]

sounds good, i would love to wagon him

[midwaybear]

Can you ask for specific ones because I can't elaborate on them all some are just gut feels and/or no reason to SR them and such

Eh don't have any specifics and it's fine because you actually started posting again. Reading your posts, still think you're townie.

[Something_Smart]

I wanted to pull quotes from the wall to explain why I townread it but there aren't many specific lines I can point to, honestly. For one, I think posting a wall that detailed after having almost no content thus far as scum would be ambitious. But even aside from just the existence/size of it, it's laid out in a way that seems to reflect a genuine thought process jumping from topic to topic. Coming out swinging on IV and then revisiting it in detail, the random interspersed reachouts, the edits and addendums, and the section marked as for nsg. It doesn't feel to me that it was crafted to look certain way, it feels like it was an attempt to sort out thoughts into words.

Does that make sense?

[flow trap]

Yeah, you seem genuinely open like in the other game I played with you

Open how?

Maybe open wasn't the right choice but things like this:

i'm not criticizing you, just disagreeing with your reasoning.

as for flow trap i'll try to be a bit less wordy and just get to the point (and also i guess keep the amount i say proportional to my degree of confidence?), it seems like he has more fun as town and is more serious as scum and this game seems to match the former rather than the latter.

Remind me of the town game I played with them; like blunt but not in an aggressive manner?

[Something_Smart]

I guess? Those seem mostly personality indicative to me.

[flow trap]

I guess? Those seem mostly personality indicative to me.

Define personally

[skitter30]

thanks ss

i guess i kinda object to your classifying that wall as 'ambitious' as scum, i think for a lot of people coming in with a wallpost like that to catch up is a lot easier as scum than interacting with, like, everything else

and i see your latter point, ig to me it just felt like an attempt to seem Nuanced, but it didn't read as coherent throughout to me, just like a lot of words and observations but not a lot of sorting or pushing

@ss

[Something_Smart]

Define personally

Like, the way she chooses to be blunt but not aggressive is just how she likes to act in general, and not reflective of how she approaches the game as town or as scum in particular.

[flow trap]

Define personally

Like, the way she chooses to be blunt but not aggressive is just how she likes to act in general, and not reflective of how she approaches the game as town or as scum in particular.

It rings genuine enough to me for now

[Something_Smart]

i guess i kinda object to your classifying that wall as 'ambitious' as scum, i think for a lot of people coming in with a wallpost like that to catch up is a lot easier as scum than interacting with, like, everything else

Yes, but that's not what would come to mind when I think of a typical catchup. I wouldn't even call it a catchup, it's more of a summary of his thoughts on topics he deemed important. At least in my own experience, a quotestripe is usually pretty easy to do as scum but something planned out and organized like that would be harder.

[catboi]

I wanted to pull quotes from the wall to explain why I townread it but there aren't many specific lines I can point to, honestly. For one, I think posting a wall that detailed after having almost no content thus far as scum would be ambitious. But even aside from just the existence/size of it, it's laid out in a way that seems to reflect a genuine thought process jumping from topic to topic. Coming out swinging on IV and then revisiting it in detail, the random interspersed reachouts, the edits and addendums, and the section marked as for nsg. It doesn't feel to me that it was crafted to look certain way, it feels like it was an attempt to sort out thoughts into words.

Does that make sense?

I feel like he's probably a wallposter regardless of alignment.

Checked to see if it's in his wheelhouse and a recent scumgame from 2019 has walls but more of the quote stripe variety - skim says shallower but I'm not really in the mood or have the focus to deep read right now