open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Andante]

it's more of a summary of his thoughts on topics he deemed important

uhhh the only main thoughts there summarized are the IV thoughts, and it's repeating the few pages where we were like "Iv is not town cause of A,B,C" nothing in that wall felt like a genuine original thought. You think it makes Sleepless town? like, it's SO MUCH EASIER to make a post like that as maf than to interact with people in real time

[Andante]

The Sleepless in Open 836 looks so much townier than the sleepless here... just saying

[skitter30]

i was in that one! and i do think this is reminiscent of that, yes
i also think he turns into more of a wallposter as scum

also quotestripe for thirty pages isn't super practical? it's pretty clear that it was pre-mediditated and that he had spent a long time thinking about it and how he was going to write that

pedit htat one too!

[Something_Smart]

I'm not going to ding SA for not having interacted with people in real-time, he's clearly busy.

[Andante]

I'm not going to ding SA for not having interacted with people in real-time, he's clearly busy.

sure, but as long as his 1 true piece of content is summarizing what I said? I'm SRing him

[Something_Smart]

How is that his only piece of content? He talked about a number of people.

[Andante]

not all posts people make are actual content...

[catboi]

it's more of a summary of his thoughts on topics he deemed important

uhhh the only main thoughts there summarized are the IV thoughts, and it's repeating the few pages where we were like "Iv is not town cause of A,B,C" nothing in that wall felt like a genuine original thought. You think it makes Sleepless town? like, it's SO MUCH EASIER to make a post like that as maf than to interact with people in real time

But you called me town for a really low effort quote wall...?

[SirCakez]

Current POE is like: Andante 3 times Midway, SS, Pooky, Mare, Cat, Skitter; Maybe Sleepless

surprised to not see myself in this - are you townreading me?

Not a big fan of this post
Feels LAMIST

Feels the opposite to me?

How so
NSG is like "why aren't you scumreading me" which seems like a grab at towncred cuz why would scum point that out

you're basically saying like "what's the case" which is such a typical scum buddy thing to post
defending them by implying there's no reason to vote them

Okay, so what's the impetus for me asking a question and then just never going back/caring about the followup or like... actually offering the thoughts that I thought MWB said that were towny? And just making a throwaway comment without the follow through. Which would kind of... be important to saving him?

Because no one bit on it so what's the motivation to follow up

I'm not really picking up on why he is "obviously" scum based on your ISO? You said one post bothered you tonally but I'm not sure how that equates to the level of confidence you have here

i didn't explicitly state everything I just thought that up to that point their posts were transparently scummy from the obvious lack of town motivation

That's a very generic statement. What wasn't town motivated about them? It felt to me like he was attempting to solve, wasn't exactly being opportunistic

Like you look at those posts and they seem extremely fakeble
Whereas I look at my townreads posts like dats, faker, whatever and I can see the town gears turning

I wanted to pull quotes from the wall to explain why I townread it but there aren't many specific lines I can point to, honestly. For one, I think posting a wall that detailed after having almost no content thus far as scum would be ambitious. But even aside from just the existence/size of it, it's laid out in a way that seems to reflect a genuine thought process jumping from topic to topic. Coming out swinging on IV and then revisiting it in detail, the random interspersed reachouts, the edits and addendums, and the section marked as for nsg. It doesn't feel to me that it was crafted to look certain way, it feels like it was an attempt to sort out thoughts into words.

Does that make sense?

I couldn't really explain why I TRed the SA wall and I think this does a pretty good job of explaining it

[Andante]

Q&A time with Andante about my reads is now over! See yall next time I'm around, I still SR SA, I'm not sure why people are actually townreading that wall... when the entire IV paragraph is just putting everything I said together in 1 post... I legit still SR SA, and I think that's where my vote is gonna stay, see yall tomorrow

[catboi]

I don't know why but I'm in hysterics at midwaybear flip flopping his read on me repeatedly with barely any input from me after 1661, was probably what i needed right now

Still don't see him going from 1657 to 1662 as scum

Cat if you don't carry me and vote scum I am willing to yeet you our the window

why would you

ever

expect me to do that?

I get that this is likely hyperbolic and just trying to kick my butt into action but I read it at the exact wrong time

read the next few pages and had very little I want to talk about. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow. I'm not really in the mood for any more tonight.

[northsidegal]

been traveling v/la until tomorrow sorry

[northsidegal]

or is that vla? is that just prod dodging? whatever anyways yeah sorry

[innocentvillager]

fuck we don’t have time

i will try to put some more serious time into this in the next couple days but no promises

[innocentvillager]

we really need to get some wagon going soon
What is general proper claiming protocol in this game?

[Datisi]

boi, do you want me to scumread your ass here

yes because you have shown you read me wrong before so if you SR me here things will be in balance

my record of reading you is currently 2/3, can you piss off

i don't see it

you see maf writing 1903? and like the amount of effort catboi is giving? like I'm pretty sure he's not maf

lmao what

i think i would say that this post is townie from andante, because i genuinely cannot imagine scum going "you know what, i will call 1903 townie for effort" like what is the effort in that post? pressing the quote button? it's so wack it's probably coming from town

i guess i kinda object to your classifying that wall as 'ambitious' as scum, i think for a lot of people coming in with a wallpost like that to catch up is a lot easier as scum than interacting with, like, everything else

Yes, but that's not what would come to mind when I think of a typical catchup. I wouldn't even call it a catchup, it's more of a summary of his thoughts on topics he deemed important. At least in my own experience, a quotestripe is usually pretty easy to do as scum but something planned out and organized like that would be harder.

i think i want to say that s_s is probably townie for this assessment - like, if he's scum with sleepless, i don't get why he makes a post like this that can be traced back to him later instead of just pushing someone else. and if he's scum without sleepless, why does he post this. i dunno, i think the thoughts here are also a bit more nuance-y than what i'd expect from scum!s_s here in this context, it just feels... weird that he'd choose this to focus on, idk

also i think i have started to Not Townread mare at some point in this game, might have to decide if it's an actual scumread by now

[Datisi]

it just feels... weird that he'd choose this to focus on

oh, i just realized why my subconsciousness was reading it as townie

we're running out of time, right? and scum!s_s was already getting kinda pressed for not really, like, doing things this game. and coming out with a defense of a slot that's currently a wagon contender while not really pushing anyone else risks you being called out for "well who do you want to wagon instead?" and the answer "idk lol" then risks people scumreading you for obviously not giving a shit what goes through. and he's not really pushing elsewhere or even giving ideas as to where we should be pushing. doesn't seem like something an experienced scum does

now i know this read might be not that applicable to s_s considering i think he's not really that much of a driving force as town usually, so maybe it would make sense if scum!him thinks he can get away with that here where most people know his meta, but uh yeah idk lole

[Datisi]

people i actively don't want to wagon: datisi, s_s, skitter, cakez, andante, iv

people i don't have strong reasons to wagon but could if it was really needed: sleepless, northsidegal, catboi, faker

poe: flow, mare, pooky, midway

[Datisi]

not sure if s_s should be in the first tier at the moment but whatever

[Sleepless Assassin]

Skitter my pooky read is pure gut. I really have nothing to back it up other than feeling similar to last game.

Andante, I don't understand why you'd expect me to have a stronger read on skitter after my wall post when the only thing I remember standing out was skitter looking townish in a little 1v1 spat.

[Mare]

Not feeling this game or much of anything, will be around a bit because deadline and stuff.

[SirCakez]

my record of reading you is currently 2/3, can you piss off

i don't remember the other ones
my mafia memory goes back precisely to the last game I played and that's it

[SirCakez]

I want a Pooky, Mare or Midway wagon
Could also be sold on SS or catboi or maaaaybe flow trap or NSG

[Datisi]

I want a Pooky, Mare or Midway wagon
Could also be sold on SS or catboi or maaaaybe flow trap or NSG

bruh why are you copying my reads

[SirCakez]

IM NOT