Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Ydrasse]

how did i force it if we were the second pair

confusion

[GuiltyLion]

If multiple dead town, including one who was NK'd and very possibly for her reads, were confident in something like this, you should give them the benefit of the doubt at least for a little while. I swear I'm not just saying this because it benefits me, you know that I respect the reads of anyone who's been confirmed town pretty heavily.

I hope you give me this same respect with regard to Galron if I'm flipped here

[Taly]

GL your reads change a lot

Quotes, Aly?

[Something_Smart]

I hope you give me this same respect with regard to Galron if I'm flipped here

I will, yeah. How confident are you in the read?

[Datisi]

hm. i was skimming the shakespeare game while it was happening - didn't you have a strong correct scumread of galron there? it's 3am and it's possible i'm misremembering, but.

pedit: @gl

[GuiltyLion]

GL your reads change a lot

yeah

that's cause there's no goal to them and none of them feel super good

one thing I have been wanting to learn to fake convincingly as scum is the random 180s and paranoia seeping into my solves but I still always feel so scared making a pivot as scum

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'll just make a case when I have time

I'm at work for another two hours

But that exact team always kills Titus/STD and the push on that pairing EoFD makes a ton of sense with it too

[GuiltyLion]

I hope you give me this same respect with regard to Galron if I'm flipped here

I will, yeah. How confident are you in the read?

honestly not very, like 50%, and it's based off of assuming town!Datisi

hm. i was skimming the shakespeare game while it was happening - didn't you have a strong correct scumread of galron there? it's 3am and it's possible i'm misremembering, but.

pedit: @gl

I was suspicious of him on D1 but not super certain of it, I got a guilty on him N1 and started hard pushing him on D2 before I outed my guilty so you might remember some posts from there where I am saying I'm convinced he's scum but not revealing the guilty to try to partner hunt

[Datisi]

aahhh, okay. i didn't catch that it was a guilty, the only posts i saw framed it as a read. makes sense, i thought it is weird how neither of you referenced it at all if you really did have a super strong scumread on him.

[GuiltyLion]

But that exact team always kills Titus/STD and the push on that pairing EoFD makes a ton of sense with it too

explain the last bit when you have time? Didn't neither of them vote Titus/STD?

I thought the main drivers of the Titus/STD wagon were like, HQ, Fire, Andante, with Datisi/RH9 hopping on once it had momentum

[Alyssa The Lamb]

It would have gave them away or they weren't around, one of the two

But Titus dying there would have instantly won the game if fire didn't leave when he did

[Alyssa The Lamb]

They would have killed my pairing and the only TvT pairings left would be yours and Shiro/HQ with Andantes worst detractors all dead

Very hard for town to win from there

[Ydrasse]

meh

it's a losing game if i pair with taly if my team is already not doing so hot and that's a bet i never take tbh

wifom bad

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Letting Taly pair with a town player he is prone to townreading is more directly losing

[Galron]

It doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter how you look. All that counts is how you smell.

[RH9]

It doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter how you look. All that counts is how you smell.

May you say this in a more direct way?

[Galron]

Galron - Disrupted marci plan with LLD
Datisi
Catboi Shiro - Catboi was obvtown, Shiro has insane WIM outside of his range
Taly - IC
RH9
Firebringer - Personally against here
Save the Dragons - WIM, early mindmeld, scum objected to the bond


Ydrasse
GuiltyLion
Cabd Something_Smart - High WIM for SS,
angielily Harley Quinn
Alyssa the Lamb - Alyssa suggesting marci tilted is unlikely svs as it undermines scum.
Adante
Lady Lambdadelta Titus - Me, I feel that the push to force LLD to bond with marci clears me.


Pool is Ydrasse, GL, Datisi, Fire, Adante, Rh9.
Ydrasse isn't getting limmed.
Limming Rh9 is not going to happen w/o a strong case bc sacrificing Alyssa.

Titus's PoE was one correct, one not, leaving Ydra, GL, Datisi and Rh9.

[RH9]

Galron - Disrupted marci plan with LLD
Datisi
Catboi Shiro - Catboi was obvtown, Shiro has insane WIM outside of his range
Taly - IC
RH9
Firebringer - Personally against here
Save the Dragons - WIM, early mindmeld, scum objected to the bond


Ydrasse
GuiltyLion
Cabd Something_Smart - High WIM for SS,
angielily Harley Quinn
Alyssa the Lamb - Alyssa suggesting marci tilted is unlikely svs as it undermines scum.
Adante
Lady Lambdadelta Titus - Me, I feel that the push to force LLD to bond with marci clears me.


Pool is Ydrasse, GL, Datisi, Fire, Adante, Rh9.
Ydrasse isn't getting limmed.
Limming Rh9 is not going to happen w/o a strong case bc sacrificing Alyssa.

Titus's PoE was one correct, one not, leaving Ydra, GL, Datisi and Rh9.

Are you only saying this because she didn't put you in the PoE?

[Galron]

It doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter how you look. All that counts is how you smell.

The best way to know if you're shaking hands with a wolf is if you remember what he smells like.

[Galron]

Galron - Disrupted marci plan with LLD
Datisi
Catboi Shiro - Catboi was obvtown, Shiro has insane WIM outside of his range
Taly - IC
RH9
Firebringer - Personally against here
Save the Dragons - WIM, early mindmeld, scum objected to the bond


Ydrasse
GuiltyLion
Cabd Something_Smart - High WIM for SS,
angielily Harley Quinn
Alyssa the Lamb - Alyssa suggesting marci tilted is unlikely svs as it undermines scum.
Adante
Lady Lambdadelta Titus - Me, I feel that the push to force LLD to bond with marci clears me.


Pool is Ydrasse, GL, Datisi, Fire, Adante, Rh9.
Ydrasse isn't getting limmed.
Limming Rh9 is not going to happen w/o a strong case bc sacrificing Alyssa.

Titus's PoE was one correct, one not, leaving Ydra, GL, Datisi and Rh9.

Are you only saying this because she didn't put you in the PoE?

I'm trying to get back on track and do something that is rarely done, read the dead. Perhaps I'll do it in the PT

[Taly]

*grabs galrons face and sniffs it*

[RH9]

Galron - Disrupted marci plan with LLD
Datisi
Catboi Shiro - Catboi was obvtown, Shiro has insane WIM outside of his range
Taly - IC
RH9
Firebringer - Personally against here
Save the Dragons - WIM, early mindmeld, scum objected to the bond


Ydrasse
GuiltyLion
Cabd Something_Smart - High WIM for SS,
angielily Harley Quinn
Alyssa the Lamb - Alyssa suggesting marci tilted is unlikely svs as it undermines scum.
Adante
Lady Lambdadelta Titus - Me, I feel that the push to force LLD to bond with marci clears me.


Pool is Ydrasse, GL, Datisi, Fire, Adante, Rh9.
Ydrasse isn't getting limmed.
Limming Rh9 is not going to happen w/o a strong case bc sacrificing Alyssa.

Titus's PoE was one correct, one not, leaving Ydra, GL, Datisi and Rh9.

Are you only saying this because she didn't put you in the PoE?

I'm trying to get back on track and do something that is rarely done, read the dead. Perhaps I'll do it in the PT

Please don't. We'd love for you to continue.

[Galron]

I want to see what the game looks like to you if you suppose shiro, hq, myself and std are town.

Not to me, but I'm going to tackle it from my POV.

If shiro, harley quinn, titus and std town and

taly, galron, not_mafia and norwee are town and marci scum

that leaves

Firebringer & Andante
& Ydrasse
Datisi & GuiltyLion
RH9 & Alyssa the Lamb
& Something_Smart

And I, like apparently everyone else, believe that my partner is town

So 3 scum in:

Firebringer & Andante
& Ydrasse
Datisi & GuiltyLion
RH9 & Alyssa the Lamb

Not talking about Ydra

So let's say 3 scum in

Firebringer & Andante
Datisi & GuiltyLion
RH9 & Alyssa the Lamb

That means one scum in each of the above or one S/S pair

I have tr on RH9 and Alyssa, although I need to go back and figure out why I do TR Alyssa

Firebringer & Andante
Datisi & GuiltyLion

All three scum in the above?

Man that's tough. I don't think I can get there. Fire and Andante I lean town on. Datisi and GL not so sure.

lol

[RH9]

But that exact team always kills Titus/STD and the push on that pairing EoFD makes a ton of sense with it too

explain the last bit when you have time? Didn't neither of them vote Titus/STD?

I thought the main drivers of the Titus/STD wagon were like, HQ, Fire, Andante, with Datisi/RH9 hopping on once it had momentum

Do you think that Titus/STD wagon was town-driven or scum-driven?

[Galron]

Datisi, Guilty Lion, Ydrasse, Alyssa, Something_Smart, RH9