Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Taly]

i just dont know what else i can even do my reads have been fucking horrible and i feel like dead weight

What's wrong bb?

[Ydrasse]

sorry

[Taly]

aly

what do you think about betting this game on

dat/gl

t/t?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

atm I'm actually okay with that too

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I still want to wait until GL is done though

[RH9]

I still want to wait until GL is done though

Done doing what again?

[Taly]

yeah i asked to test waters, not wanting to commit yet

im about to head off and wont touch this thread for about 24 hr tho

[GuiltyLion]

Galron -

I think alot of galrons posts dont do much to help me build a read on him, so im curious about when hes gonna have his results from digesting those 12 pages.

RH9 -

At some point i said i enjoy his posts, but now that i'm ISOING him im realizing thats theres nothing really there, I think I was imagining things to be alot better than they were when I was trying to make reads based off my memory : 3 I would like to see him make some stances as well.

Firebringer -

Hes prob a townread, usually reading meme players is a bit hard for me, but I like his posts.. it seems like the perfect mix between memey and serious imo,
i like how he was trying to get into a pair with alyssa the lamb super early on, that just seems to me like a bit too confident for a scum to make.

Ydrasse -

i only really feel like her 418 and afterwards do anything for me, but even then i dont really have any thoughts on it.. most of the posts before that to me seem like she was just posting to have a presence. she would prob be a scumread if i have to put a label on her.

Cabd -

i've never really paid attention to how cabd acts as scum, since the one time he was scum in a game with me i was his partner lol.. but nothing he did really pinged me as scum as of yet..?

Alyssa the Lamb -

I think Alyssa the Lambs beginning posts were joking a bit

too

much about being scum, and I agree with llds 468.

Andante -

22 I think this is a bit scummy, cuz at this stage scum would prob be more focused on getting a pair than anything else.
post 33 this seems like a weird post.
414 this seems a bit overly aware of herself tbh.
but otherwise after she came back after her cry, i liked most of the posts. shes still a scumread, but its getting weaker.

Malakittens -

I don't think I've played with her before, but her lack of posts is sus. she would prob be another scumread if she doesnt post something more substantial soon.

People should add me to their readslist I demand critique if nothing else

if u want my critique: i feel like u should be ripping out the floor more and shoving reads down our throats so that the gamestates in a way u like.
taly lol i want ur opinion on if u think me and lily would be a good pair : 3

marci doesn't touch on Datisi at all here

I think scum are normally too self-conscious to

not

comment on their partner in a readslist

[Datisi]

i'm gonna go sleep. i have another semi-busy day tomorrow, but my evening will be free to try to look at this game again

[GuiltyLion]

I forgot about Datisi joining with LLD to tag team on Andante on page 26

++townpoints for Datisi, feels quite genuine and not-buslike

[GuiltyLion]

My day one report of scum team I’ll also assign them roles:

Cabd -the mastermind (why not just for fun I’ll add him just because how he fooled me in that game a year ago I’ll never forgive)
Andante- the heart (fun loving good natured don’t understand how her reads form or go and why she got upset over people she thought was scum were scum reading her)
Marcistar - get away driver (idk I’m just assuming in the duo of lily and her one is scum and lily seemed more “real” tonaly to me
Catboi -the heavy (guy actually has larger scumrange from my memory and could pocket a lot of people and I’m watching him….well a bit. I read most of what he is saying)

I should have formatted that
Also all of those reads are shit that I just gave and this is why these early reads lists are crap.

could this be ydra scum

if Fire had all 4 scum here by post 722 man is a legend

[GuiltyLion]

i feel like i’m about to say something stupid but shouldn’t we just shove towny people together and not overthink

Sure! Who are the players you would like to endgame?

lld,

gl, datisi

, probably you,

probably rh9

i’d feel comfortable with some combination here

hey Ydrasse you can get your wish

[Ydrasse]

everytime i open this game i just dont want to tonight so, tomorrow when people are also around

[Alyssa The Lamb]

is GL done?

[GuiltyLion]

no, I kinda stepped away for a bit. I'll reread a bit more tonight and tomorrow AM and I'll make it clear when I'm done. for now though through 40 pages I kinda think scum!Ydrasse just makes the most sense. For Datisi and Alyssa I have a number of posts/takes that just feel genuine town and uninformed either with regard to myself, other flipped town players, or scum. I haven't yet come across a Ydrasse post that I think she couldn't make as scum

[GuiltyLion]

I haven't found a smoking gun either but Ydrasse is honestly too good at scum to ever leave a smoking gun I think

[Alyssa The Lamb]

once you simplify the game down like this, you don't need much to have a smoking gun

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I've felt for a good chunk of the game that town just hasn't been really in the forefront of the game

now that I'm fairly sure that all the people who could be "deepwolf" active players are just town, it really just comes down to what player is playing the most like how the scumteam in general has been playing the game

Marcistar has been just sitting back and adding stuff, but not really anything that progresses anything
Andante has been in the background, not adding a whole lot, and started an arbitrary wagon when it became clear her time was short
S_S has been idly sheeping for most of the game and started panicking when we were turning on his wagon

I really don't think that the last scum would be doing more than that, really

[Alyssa The Lamb]

and I think it's a lot less likely to be Datisi and RH9 since their play patterns don't entirely mesh like it

Ydrasse's does

[Alyssa The Lamb]

and just like how Andante started throwing desperate plays out there, so did S_S

Andante strikes me as the type of player that would just go with whatever seems like it might work to save her own skin
S_S is much more calculating than that, I don't think he actually expected that we would turn from him onto Ydrasse at the point where he was arguing it the most intensely

[Alyssa The Lamb]

btw I saw that RH9 had a recently completed scumgame and I skimmed through parts of it

he seemed way more content-centric in that game, which leads me to believe that he's the type of scum player that's really self-conscious about his appearance

if that's a correct assessment, that's borderline clearing for him this game since I don't have that impression from him at all, at least not from a gameplay sense

I'd really just go back to the PT summary for examples of that; if you really look, the conversation about his initial reads list just kind of ends very shortly after my thoughts are out there, I don't think he ever even answered me when I asked him what he's thinking regarding his reads now that he has my thoughts on them, and it's really incongruent with that type of playstyle

[Alyssa The Lamb]

idk if the game makes any sense to me if Ydrasse flips town

at that point it's probably my curse of always having exactly one scum I can just never catch

[GuiltyLion]

No really like

Does Fire/Aly/Datisi/Ydra/Taly/Norwe just installing

I get Andante is with Fire and Titus can go with Aly?

Sounds like a strong group of pairings, not that it is scum free but I generally feel good about them

Norwe

/Datisi being an endgame pair?

lil iffy on

titus/norwee

atm but otherwise i think that’s a good list

i’ll compromise for you my dancing king

p-edit: sell me on norwee while i work

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Idr why I was scumreading ydrasse predance

[GuiltyLion]

i need to reread to figure out why Titus is so invested in GL. Did she just read LLD posts and be like "this was a good case"? cause i didn't think it was....

and yeah more words doesn't equal more effort but GL been pretty responsive/proactive where if u see his scum game its reserved and more calculated. Like i don't see how this is scum

I'll eat my hat if GL is town.

will u tape it and post it postgame?

If you provide me a free server to upload to

let's not forget this btw