open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[skitter30]

Ugh plz dont tell me that >.>

Pedit ty

[innocentvillager]

i feel like scum don't have to try very hard to manipulate the votes such that it ends on town given how clueless some of us are with how little time there is left.

hm, wouldn't you think that scum would have either already done that if they easily had the capability to, or we were never going to hit scum at all and so they don't need to?

in other words, i don't think that a town elimination is inevitable unless the major wagons {flow, sleepless, midway} are all town. does that make sense and is it clear how i'm disagreeing with what you said? maybe it's not super important

i mean sure they could've already been in a spot to ensure the town elimination

i just think regardless of the initial setup, i think it's very unlikely that if flow or midway are the only scum here that they end up dying over sleepless because of how many votes are needed, they can just stall out until one of us gets impatient and hammer sleepless. And i think if sleepless is the sole scum there's a big chance that scum can get us to consolidate on flow or midway. maybe idk how exactly it's gonna happen, all i know is that the odds aren't in our favor here.

skit idk why i ended my comment with that sorry. i was going to add how my case is a very tail end of the distribution and that the vast majority of people recover in a couple months so odds are very in your favor. good luck

[Sleepless Assassin]

@Something_Smart can u please choose a wagon

Sleepless, please be around to vote for whoever isn't you, whether that's midwaybear or flow trap

don't worry, it's not ending in a no hammer

I'm not voting midway

[Sleepless Assassin]

Looks like deadline is about 3pm my time. I'll be here for the afternoon

[catboi]

was halfway to writing a post on sleepless but opened flow trap's iso to check when their last post was relative to the rest of the game, and kind of hate that flow dipped right after promising to catch up :/. Know that the inactivity isn't an alignment tell but the fact that it came after that specific post makes me feel like it's more than likely they had trouble coming up with things to say as part of a catchup and dipped

[catboi]

Anyway Faker I'm not seeing whatever you're seeing in regard to the northside interactions from sleepless sorry to disappoint yet again

[Something_Smart]

@Something_Smart can u please choose a wagon

I won't vote SA. I will vote either of the other two, as necessary.

[Faker]

Anyway Faker I'm not seeing whatever you're seeing in regard to the northside interactions from sleepless sorry to disappoint yet again

tl;dr: IMO noticeably more worried about northsidegal reading him correctly than utilizing her reads, has mostly thrown in towel on swaying her and iirc had virtually given up on that front. Doesn't leverage her read on flow trap at all and completely ignores it. Pair w/ Sleepless thinking she had knowledge of main at start, likely targeted interactions+selective ignorance.

Very rushed outline, no longer have time to read and will not before deadline. Absolute comedy of errors atm requiring borrowing items from 5 different people/entities, community effort interview, still have to do a bunch of research/prep and it is shortly after deadline.

[Faker]

Will be able to check in on votes.

Intend to vote flow trap over Midway assuming that is the third alluded to wagon. Cakez would have to think.

Midway we get him to claim the town PR of the pair he drew, then not vote him because of it, what the fuck is even the point

[Datisi]

Midway we get him to claim the town PR of the pair he drew, then not vote him because of it, what the fuck is even the point

this is something that i was thinking of, but i was feeling bold enough last night that "just yeet through the incoming power role claim" was my preferred solution

anyway, i will be around from now until deadline. still prefer flow to sleepless, but will vote sleepless if needed to avoid no-yeet

[skitter30]

Midway we get him to claim the town PR of the pair he drew, then not vote him because of it, what the fuck is even the point

Yeah i was thinking this
VOTE: flow

[Datisi]

VOTE: flow

[midwaybear]

If you are voting flow because you think he will be harder to read than SA, then maybe reconsider because flow is probably getting replaced. Also, I think flow’s demotivation this game does seem genuine. I might be getting my timeline wrong, but people (except for maybe Faker) only started suspecting him after he started dropping off in posts. Also think he would try harder as scum in last few posts.

[innocentvillager]

what

who tf cares what midway's draft position is

if we think he's scum we kill him

it's that simple

[innocentvillager]

killing a TPR is worse than killing a VT but killing a SPR is better than killing a goon so it's the same thing??

[innocentvillager]

like if we want to kill midway we should just kill him

the claim part is just a formality at this point

[skitter30]

On day1 when we know its likely he's a pr, i kinda care, yes

Also i think we just need to pick someone at this point ... we've spent like 30+ pages bickering around the three options, someone just needs to get flipped now


I'll check in in ~3 hours and will vote the leading wagon at that time

[innocentvillager]

im just saying flipping midway is higher risk higher reward than flipping a different slot in terms of mechanical advantage for town

so EV wise it's probably similar to flipping someone who's either VT or goon

we had 5 on midway functionallity 6 with SS's vote, maybe Mare and Sleepless would join too

[innocentvillager]

ugh idk upon further reflection if midway is town this is a bad idea

Midway we get him to claim the town PR of the pair he drew, then not vote him because of it, what the fuck is even the point

Yeah i was thinking this
VOTE: flow

lol is this why u thought it was a bad idea?

[catboi]

Anyway Faker I'm not seeing whatever you're seeing in regard to the northside interactions from sleepless sorry to disappoint yet again

tl;dr: IMO noticeably more worried about northsidegal reading him correctly than utilizing her reads, has mostly thrown in towel on swaying her and iirc had virtually given up on that front. Doesn't leverage her read on flow trap at all and completely ignores it. Pair w/ Sleepless thinking she had knowledge of main at start, likely targeted interactions+selective ignorance.

Very rushed outline, no longer have time to read and will not before deadline. Absolute comedy of errors atm requiring borrowing items from 5 different people/entities, community effort interview, still have to do a bunch of research/prep and it is shortly after deadline.

Right probably was a mistake on my part to only look at it from one side

[Sleepless Assassin]

If you are voting flow because you think he will be harder to read than SA, then maybe reconsider because flow is probably getting replaced. Also, I think flow’s demotivation this game does seem genuine. I might be getting my timeline wrong, but people (except for maybe Faker) only started suspecting him after he started dropping off in posts. Also think he would try harder as scum in last few posts.

I suspected him for his posting in the first 30 pages.

we had 5 on midway functionallity 6 with SS's vote, maybe Mare and Sleepless would join too

I'm not voting midway.

[Faker]

VOTE: flow trap

Honestly do not care what the VC is ATM, not entertaining Midway and no way the votes arrive for Sleepless.

Decent chance it flips scum, will be wild to speculate on wagon implications if it is (ex. Sleepless insistence on only those two, WIFOM or no?)

[Faker]

Wait what the fuck someone did an unofficial VC last page

VOTE: Sleepless

[Faker]

Flow trap isn't even close because people went YOLOing on Midway what the actual fuck were you all thinking

[northsidegal]

yeah i mean mare plus one other person is enough for sleepless which seems like the easiest path