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Dwlee99

(5): Lady Lambdadelta, T3, mastina, SirCakez, Shiro

mastina

(2): That Idiot Ivan, Suripoko

T3

(1): Dwlee99

Lady Lambdadelta

(1): skitter30

Shiro

(1): jjh927

Not Voting

(3): Rogue, StrangeMatter, The Bombay

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline: January 15, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-01-14 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Malakittens head of Rogue v/la
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[jjh927]

Actually now that you've said Mastina should be obvious I suddenly care about you explaining that one

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler: ONLY FOR JJH

open her iso

[jjh927]

She claims that all the time as a meme

[SirCakez]

I don't think that's scummy cause me and cause I did at one point and pushed LLD on it in that game I linked and she was town



T3 is either scum or seeking karmic retribution on me rn is what I'll say

okay...

@cakez- you’re a towel

no I'm a cake get it right

I think if you give Dwlee a question with a big scope, like "explain all of your reads at once", they're not gonna answer it in the way you want

yeah I agree with this but they can't even explain their vote on T3

[Dwlee99]

I've played a lot of games with her and never have I seen that

[Dwlee99]

Cakez you see the part of t3's posting where he says I'm scum and powerlim me and it's cause of my reaction to LLD? T3 is either scum pushing me or wants to lim me for the funsies here because he should know that this is not scum indicative for me, or at the very least isn't as "lock scum" as he would like to claim

[jjh927]

That is a surprise

Well, FYI, Mastina frequently memeclaims mason, particularly if she is in a neighbourhood that is not a masonry, although inevitably also in the event that she was an actual mason or similarly functioning role (however the likelihood of this scenario is statistically low)

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White Move 4

[StrangeMatter]

Update on further reading I still don’t like it

VOTE: dwlee

I don’t like how they keep flip flopping with their LLD stance while their vote is still there- 228 feels very much like something you’d say to a townread you think is in a dumb tunnel… which doesn’t bode well cognitively with the whole… ya kno… vote on LLD?

I'm really not following this thought process, and I'm just wondering if it was scum just using a weak excuse to jump on to be the 5th person on the Dwlee wagon? I have seen people townread off of a dumb tunnel and all, yet every time I read 228 I don't get how they got to this point.

Also this chess match is getting really interesting.

[StrangeMatter]

I missed a lot I had initially typed that on a phone but it got deleted and hastily made that. I was thinking about the Dwlee wagon and people who were at some point on it which didn't sit well with me so I wanted to dig into that a little more and this one stuck out a bit to me (they unvoted later which I hadn't mentioned).

[jjh927]

That d3 pawn is the weaker move

I hope whoever made it was put off by me saying nc3 was the best way to protect that pawn and just didn't want to copy me

Sure, they can develop their dark square bishop now and in fact without doing so already control a reasonable diagonal, but they've passed up on developing their knight with tempo and they don't gain any more centre control from this.

[jjh927]

I think I'd try pawn d5 here, which would really open things up and I think generally results in black gaining a positional advantage, but I could see myself being wrong there

[Rogue]

As evidenced by the unvote, SM, I didn’t realize it was as high as it was. The vote counter error had him at E-1 (which I then checked after my unvote and skitter wasn’t on wagon, but still). Of course this is after the fact, but I didn’t realize the wagon was as big as it was?

I’m playing off tone- and I felt like it’s weird to use a chastising tone when pairing with a scumread on someone. He hasn’t really made it better, but I’m letting the game breathe for a bit to see what else develops. I’ve been getting too in the middle of things lately and my reads have suffered from it. So I’m sitting back.

Does this make sense? I can try to explain further when I get to my computer tonight if you need.

[StrangeMatter]

I don't think that explains much of what I just said so please do.

[Rogue]

It's also to say if you are town there is still time to back up and not do this crap

Does this not read as a chastise to you, SM? Basically I don’t understand why someone who is voting another person (because they scumread them, not for another reason it doesn’t seem) says something like this?

Like, when I’m reading this post I hear “Back off this push and I’ll back off”

Like that was the first post of the back and forth I saw after I finished eating and that was my first reaction to it.

What do you view it as? Why didn’t you bring it up earlier when I asked for more input :/

[StrangeMatter]

It's also to say if you are town there is still time to back up and not do this crap

Does this not read as a chastise to you, SM? Basically I don’t understand why someone who is voting another person (because they scumread them, not for another reason it doesn’t seem) says something like this?

Like, when I’m reading this post I hear “Back off this push and I’ll back off”

Like that was the first post of the back and forth I saw after I finished eating and that was my first reaction to it.

What do you view it as? Why didn’t you bring it up earlier when I asked for more input :/

That makes a little more sense, I viewed it from what was worded as "I think he was trying to townread them but it just doesn't make sense with the rest of their posts." which I did not get how that conclusion was made. As for bringing it up earlier I hadn't seen said post and was mostly looking into the Dwlee and LLD argument.

[StrangeMatter]

Wait I’m dumb I thought you meant your post. Dwlee’s post just reads like someone who wants them to just back off but I don’t think LLD would back off if they are town considering past games.

[Suripoko]

Dwlee99 (5): Lady Lambdadelta, T3, mastina, SirCakez, Shiro

[T3]

that happens a lot

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wait I’m dumb I thought you meant your post. Dwlee’s post just reads like someone who wants them to just back off but I don’t think LLD would back off if they are town considering past games.

Yeah never gonna have that happen. Only reason I back off anything is I townread the push or if I find something scummier

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wait I’m dumb I thought you meant your post. Dwlee’s post just reads like someone who wants them to just back off but I don’t think LLD would back off if they are town considering past games.

Yeah never gonna have that happen. Only reason I back off anything is I townread the push or if I find something scummier

[T3]

You don't need to flavourclaim
I think you should have said enough to satisfy people already

VOTE: jjh
This reeks of whiteknighting. Especially because LLD is a very loud player.

Elaborate

You are free to call out "whiteknighting" if you like. Without pointing out any cool buzzwords, what makes you think this is scum aligned behaviour in this instance?

okay. you're reassuring and calling bombay town in order to gain their trust.

What makes you think this is scum aligned behaviour in this instance?

...i think that's fairly obvious

[T3]

VOTE: t3

I think this has highest chance of flipping scum rn

LOL
you say that i'm hard to read on day 1 and the best way to sort me is through interactions

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: t3

I think this has highest chance of flipping scum rn

LOL
you say that i'm hard to read on day 1 and the best way to sort me is through interactions

Yea unless you do something obviously scummy like that