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[CheekyTeeky]

Meg v Mastina
Cheeky v Mastina

Mastina stirring the pot.

Or all three scum.

That's it. That's the solve.

:thinking pose:

[Flea The Magician]

We should NOT claim any submitted preferences

We absolutely should.

The mafia might lie about theirs, but they are only 3/10 of the players. They can't prevent 10/13 players from telling the truth.

If we have players truthfully claim their alignment preference (without claiming PR/Vanilla preference), then we can narrow down the gamestate.

For instance, if we have 12/13 or so claim they submitted town preference, then that means that everyone who submitted scum preference probably got it and some of them lied.

In contrast, if we have 6/13 or so claim they submitted mafia preference, then that means that everyone who submitted town preference probably got it.

There's zero downsides to this. It genuinely can POE the game on D1.

Subject to WIFOM.
People know I favour a scum roll. I submitted 2 things which were pro for whichever alignment I ended up being, and 1 anti-town thing.
I submitted town preference. I did not submit a pr preference.

[CheekyTeeky]

Also I hope noone claimed their mafia roles because mastina is on a big ol' fishing trip today.

Idk man if people roleclaimed it heavily skews scum on their part unless they submitted that role for both alignment and aren't giving the full story which they likely shouldn't in this case.

I was dumb and submitted 2/3 roles that could be either alignment which is saying too much already I guess. Good news is I got the 1/3.

[Titus]

I'll wait for Titus' opinion before turning that vote into a tunnel though.

Great. I've been trying to actively avoid rulespec and just use reactions for reads. :/

[Titus]

For instance, if we have 12/13 or so claim they submitted town preference, then that means that everyone who submitted scum preference probably got it and some of them lied.

In contrast, if we have 6/13 or so claim they submitted mafia preference, then that means that everyone who submitted town preference probably got it.

There's zero downsides to this. I

This is not 100% accurate. The analysis is skewed towards those who preferred scum but doesn't lock them in. The threat of eliminating people who claim they prefer scum would possibly cause town to lie. I wouldn't have included that threat.

However, there's zero reason to not out scum submissions. We can do some magic d2 or d3 with that.

For the record, I AM keeping a list of preferences, roles, etc., and I'll be sharing after everyone has chimed in.

I've not gone through the effort of developing proper reads yet but my initial thoughts are there's a high chance of 1-2 scum in {MegAzumarill, CheekyTeeky} here, so:
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I'll have more thoughts as well.


Can we do Meg first?

[Titus]

Also I hope noone claimed their mafia roles because mastina is on a big ol' fishing trip today.

Idk man if people roleclaimed it heavily skews scum on their part unless they submitted that role for both alignment and aren't giving the full story which they likely shouldn't in this case.

I was dumb and submitted 2/3 roles that could be either alignment which is saying too much already I guess. Good news is I got the 1/3.

Wait y'all didn't submit 6 roles?

[House]

house is just a robot here

If you're actually town, you should realize that my posting throughout the work week is perfunctory, to avoid prods.

Tues-Thurs, I don't have a ton of time to gab.

[House]

Can we do Meg first?

I'm game.

VOTE: Meg

[CheekyTeeky]

I'll wait for Titus' opinion before turning that vote into a tunnel though.

Great. I've been trying to actively avoid rulespec and just use reactions for reads. :/

I meant your opinion on House lol

[CheekyTeeky]

Also I hope noone claimed their mafia roles because mastina is on a big ol' fishing trip today.

Idk man if people roleclaimed it heavily skews scum on their part unless they submitted that role for both alignment and aren't giving the full story which they likely shouldn't in this case.

I was dumb and submitted 2/3 roles that could be either alignment which is saying too much already I guess. Good news is I got the 1/3.

Wait y'all didn't submit 6 roles?

No I submitted 3 because I'm lazy and I thought I could be tricky if I rolled scum with true claiming.

[CheekyTeeky]

house is just a robot here

If you're actually town, you should realize that my posting throughout the work week is perfunctory, to avoid prods.

Tues-Thurs, I don't have a ton of time to gab.

Ok noted.

[mastina]

Anyway, I'm sceptical of

mastina

's idea as I have no idea how she's going to compile all this

In my PT of course!

[mastina]

Can we do Meg first?

We can, but I figured Cheeky would respond more to my pressure and be more cooperative than Meg would be from it, and I was equally willing to vote either, so that's why I went Cheeky first.

[mastina]

Titus:

You haven't given us your preferred alignment or your mafia role picks, in spite of having said there's no downside to the latter.

For the record, the only other player not having chimed in is ɀefiend (who hasn't posted yet).

Beyond that, Flea's stated alignment preference but not stated mafia role(s);
CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill are the only players refusing to do either a stated alignment preference or outting their submitted roles.

When both Titus and ɀefiend (or the slot) have chimed in, I'll share my compiled list along with some thoughts on my findings.

[mastina]

Wait nevermind I'm a dummy, Titus did, disregard that.

[Greeting]

Also I hope noone claimed their mafia roles because mastina is on a big ol' fishing trip today.

Idk man if people roleclaimed it heavily skews scum on their part unless they submitted that role for both alignment and aren't giving the full story which they likely shouldn't in this case.

I was dumb and submitted 2/3 roles that could be either alignment which is saying too much already I guess. Good news is I got the 1/3.

Wait y'all didn't submit 6 roles?

I was told I can submit up to three, at least one being town and at least one being scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

3 way tie.

One of these wagons are on scum. Wouldn't be surprised if two are, considering the desperate votes on me.

This post strikes me wrong. How can votes be desperate when there's nothing causing a reaction of desperation at this point of the game. It's like a discredit/shade two for one combo and clearly quite out of context thus disingenuous.

I don't see the need for town to make exaggerated posts like this.

I also don't understand the suspicion on meg so if someone could use words that would be appreciated.

[mastina]

VOTE: MegAzumarill
(I do have initial findings which give me townreads but I can't share my townreads without tainting the results)

[Greeting]

Anyway, I'm sceptical of

mastina

's idea as I have no idea how she's going to compile all this

In my PT of course!

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear about what I meant.

I didn't mean technicalities, I meant the method itself. Some players submitted town preference, some submitted scum preference. Some townies might have submitted scum preference. What if scums lie about scum preference and those townies who submitted scum preference didn't lie and simply didn't get it? This is what I'm sceptical about.

[CheekyTeeky]

CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill are the only players refusing to do either a stated alignment preference or outting their submitted roles.

Yeah because scum are going to make a show of resistance instead of making something up to blend in. I've said what I need to about my role.

[CheekyTeeky]

If I need to say it, I always prefer town.

[CheekyTeeky]

This is what I'm sceptical about.

Yes mastina's reasoning is rubbish hence why I think she's scum. Like it would be useful information if it was a given that everyone would tell the truth but that's obviously not the case in this game

life

mafia. The information would be more useful to scum as they already know that most, if not all of the town would be telling the truth and could try to reverse engineer the possible town picks/generate a believable fake claim since they'll also have more info about the setup based on what's not in the set up and what roles mafia have.

[CheekyTeeky]

<.<
>.>
^.^
I'm out for a bit.

[Enchant]

Should hammered townies reveal their town picks?

[MegAzumarill]

Only if they didn't get their first pick I'd think