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[Enchant]

Uh what

[MegAzumarill]

Otherwise doesn't give any info so it's a mute point

[House]

house is just a robot here

I just reread my ISO and I completely disagree with this remark.

Does anyone else finds my posts this game to be robotic?

[House]

Otherwise doesn't give any info so it's a mute point

moot*

[MegAzumarill]

Otherwise doesn't give any info so it's a mute point

moot*

Cowt

[Taly]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm disappointed.

[CheekyTeeky]

Should hammered townies reveal their town picks?

Only if they didn't get their first pick I'd think

I don't see what that would prove since multiple townies could have submitted the same roles so it's not like you can poe it. The town flip itself would be sufficient.

[Taly]

Change your

Mastina

and

House

reads and you might not be.

[Flea The Magician]

If you want my submissions I submitted Jailkeeper, Informed Townie/Goon, and Miller.

[CheekyTeeky]

Change your

Mastina

and

House

reads and you might not be.

You're not a good parrot. Bad parrot!

[CheekyTeeky]

house is just a robot here

I just reread my ISO and I completely disagree with this remark.

Does anyone else finds my posts this game to be robotic?

My alter ego also thinks you're robotic. So does my cat.

Since when do people need to reread their own posts to check their tone? Tone-checks are only for self-aware scum amirite?

[CheekyTeeky]

I see the light at the end of the tunnel, someone save me _-_

[House]

house is just a robot here

I just reread my ISO and I completely disagree with this remark.

Does anyone else finds my posts this game to be robotic?

My alter ego also thinks you're robotic. So does my cat.

Since when do people need to reread their own posts to check their tone? Tone-checks are only for self-aware scum amirite?

If I was self-aware, I wouldn't have HAD to reread my ISO to know you were full of shit.

[ɀefiend]

What mastina is doing both scum!mastina and town!mastina could do; the act is merely Information Instead of Analysis, which is NAI. However there are some flaws, and although I have no way to prove it, what mastina says about what everyone submitted is not 100% true.

I submitted town preference overall, but all three of my scum roles were rejected (which seems ridiculous reading what some of y'all claim to submitted) -- so I was assigned a Vanilla preference if rolling scum.

I will also be keeping my own notes on people's claims, but if someone wants to neighborize me into mastina's PT so that I don't have to keep notes, it would be appreciated.

Not enough petty arguments to generate any reads yet.

[MegAzumarill]

They were probably rejected for not being normal

Claim your scum roles that were rejected anyway

[ɀefiend]

Ok.

- Strengthener
- 1Shot BP Interceptor
- Day3 Doomed BP Ninja

[MegAzumarill]

Yeah none of those are normal

[Titus]

Otherwise doesn't give any info so it's a mute point

moot*

Must back away from the pocket of correct legal jargon.

[Titus]

3 way tie.

One of these wagons are on scum. Wouldn't be surprised if two are, considering the desperate votes on me.

This post strikes me wrong. How can votes be desperate when there's nothing causing a reaction of desperation at this point of the game. It's like a discredit/shade two for one combo and clearly quite out of context thus disingenuous.

I don't see the need for town to make exaggerated posts like this.

I also don't understand the suspicion on meg so if someone could use words that would be appreciated.

The desperation of the other players is proportional to the game situational ego of the player.

[Titus]

They were probably rejected for not being normal

Claim your scum roles that were rejected anyway

Here's a rejected scumrole.

Add the word maybe to every result.

[Titus]

On a more serious note, I struggle to believe how any normal role can be rejected.

[Titus]

Well I mean broken and/or unfun things sure. "Doomed" I'd reject.

[mastina]

I didn't mean technicalities, I meant the method itself. Some players submitted town preference, some submitted scum preference. Some townies might have submitted scum preference. What if scums lie about scum preference and those townies who submitted scum preference didn't lie and simply didn't get it? This is what I'm sceptical about.

Well about that.

If Enchant was serious about submitting scum preference, then I'm pretty sure that if the mod gave everyone their stated preference?

We have three scum who submitted scum preference and then either refused to state their alignment preference (Cheeky, Meg) or lied about it and said they had town preference. (Technically, they could lie and say 'no preference', but I've reason to believe that everyone who claimed 'No Preference' is actually town here, just off of who the names claiming no preference are. I don't think scum truthfully claimed no preference given Enchant, and I don't think scum lied about it being no preference given who the names are and basic psychology in mafia play in that mafia would be afraid to claim 'no preference' if they thought that claiming no preference would make them more likely to be seen as a scum candidate.)

Spoiler: Notes

TOWN

PREFERENCE:

mastina

House
Scorpious
Yume
Greeting
Flea the Magician
CheekyTeeky (after much resistance)
ɀefiend

NO ALIGNMENT PREFERENCE:

Taly
Titus
Galron

SCUM

PREFERENCE:

Enchant? (Not sure if serious)

PREFERENCE NOT YET STATED:

MegAzumarill

MAFIA ROLES

POOL:

1-Shot Strongman (mastina)
1-Shot Universal Backup (mastina)
Mafia PT Cop (mastina)
Informed Goon (Enchant)
Macho 1x Strongman (Enchant)
Mafia Rolecop (Enchant)
Mafia Ascetic Multitasking Rolestopper/Rolecop (House)
Mafia Ascetic Multitasking Hider/Watcher (House)
Ascetic Strongman (House)
Mafia Neapolitan (Taly)
Mafia Neighborizer (Taly)
Mafia Combined Rolecop, Loyal Neighborizer Loyal Doctor Traitor (Titus)
Mafia Combined Disloyal Universal Backup Encryptor (Titus)
Mafia Combined Personal Alien Mailman (Titus)
Ninja (Scorpious)
Mafia JOAT (Scorpious)
Mafia Roleblocker (Scorpious)
Mafia Loud Alien (Galron)
Mafia 2-shot Strongman (Galron)
Mafia Roleblocker (Yume)
Mafia RoleCop (Yume)
Mafia Neighbour (Yume)
Mafia Roleblocker (Greeting)
(Mafia (not specific)) Jailkeeper (Flea the Magician)
(not specific) Informed Goon (Flea the Magician)

MAFIA ROLE

FREQUENCY:

Strongman: x4
Rolecop: 4 (+2 variants)
Ascetic: 3
Roleblocker: 3 (+1 variant)
Rolestopper/Variant: 3
Universal Backup: 2
Neighborizer: 2 (+1 variant)
Informed: 2

PICKS NOT YET STATED:

MegAzumarill
CheekyTeeky

Between the players having stated town and the player refusing to state a preference, we have 9/13 players.

So what this tells me:

Taly

and Titus are town;
Galron is

probably

town.

If Enchant is town, which he probably is, then all three scum would be in those that didn't claim or claimed town.

Removing myself, that pool?
{House, Scorpious, Yume, Greeting, Flea the Magician, CheekyTeeky, ɀefiend, MegAzumarill}.

Of those players?

Greeting has no completed scumgames per their wiki. They have four towngames and zero scumgames. The preference for a towngame is probably thus true and accurate. So

Greeting is town

.

Scorpious's wiki leaves it unclear, but very loosely imo indicates that town is

slightly

more likely.

House I think has stated his town/scum preference before, but I sadly can't remember it and he has no real wiki so I have to keep him in the pool

for now

until I track it down.

Ditto for Flea; fae might've stated faer preference but I can't remember it.

Yume might've stated preference on one of her accounts but thanks to the number of them I can't track it down.

If Cheeky has stated her preference previously, I don't know it.

zefiend is impossible to track; ditto, for Meg.

So sadly, that doesn't narrow the pool down as much as I want, but it still helps as a

starting

point.

It gives us 3/7.5 names as scum from a narrowed list.

Not quite 50% odds of hitting scum, but 40% odds of hitting scum beats the default 25% we'd have otherwise (3/12).

And from this, we can get into the reads on players from that list.

{House,

Scorpious

, Yume, Flea the Magician, CheekyTeeky, ɀefiend, MegAzumarill}

Cheeky's play looks like scum;
Meg's play looks like scum.

Even if both are scum, that'd leave 1/4 of the remaining prime suspects as candidates.

What mastina is doing both scum!mastina and town!mastina could do; the act is merely Information Instead of Analysis, which is NAI. However there are some flaws, and although I have no way to prove it, what mastina says about what everyone submitted is not 100% true.

I submitted town preference overall, but all three of my scum roles were rejected (which seems ridiculous reading what some of y'all claim to submitted) -- so I was assigned a Vanilla preference if rolling scum.

I will also be keeping my own notes on people's claims, but if someone wants to neighborize me into mastina's PT so that I don't have to keep notes, it would be appreciated.

Not enough petty arguments to generate any reads yet.

This makes me lean town on zefiend.

Which leaves 1-3 scum in {House, Yume, Flea the Magician}.

I could see it being any of them, but while I can't read House worth a damn, loosely, I think his contributions are town. I think 102 was accurate regardless (if House is scum, he was the scum; otherwise, it's probably Meg), and find the Cheeky House vote there sus.

If I had to go gun to my head, I'd say that in {Yume, Flea, House}, towniest to scummiest it'd be House > Yume > Flea.

So right now, I'm thinking:

All 3 scum are in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill, House, Yume, Flea the Magician};
CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill have a high chance of being scum;
House is less likely scum;
There's 1-2 scum in {Yume, Flea the Magician};
There's basically a guaranteed scum, 1-2, in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill}

.

[mastina]

(this is important enough that I'm going to...)