I'm probably making my thought hard to follow.In post 447, The Three Bears wrote:Hold up. Pause. What?In post 445, Tet wrote:Because they slipped as scum.
-baby bear
In post 442, Arcade Pals wrote:VOTE: The Three Bears
I think that their reaction on page 13 to the fake day vig is fake but trying to look genuine. By that I mean, I don't believe that they believed that they were dead, and I don't think it was a townie reaction.
Where is this? I skimmed Cephy's iso and did not see anything about like what flavor they are anywhere???In post 450, Tet wrote:Mush says Ceph flavor slipped
Google Translate works pretty good.In post 446, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Some of my deepest reads are usually hard to convey because they rely so heavily on Norwee logic that just doesn’t translate well when i try to type it out as a post in an mafia game.
Au contraire. One of my favourite things to do when I'm bored is to go on Google Maps, find random places like shops or restaurants in Japan or China and read the reviews translated from East Asian languages into English. It's free entertainment.In post 453, Galron wrote:Google Translate works pretty good.In post 446, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Some of my deepest reads are usually hard to convey because they rely so heavily on Norwee logic that just doesn’t translate well when i try to type it out as a post in an mafia game.
"There's no point" is what came out from the original of "Nothing is gonna make any sense"In post 454, MegAzumarill wrote:New rule everyone must put their posts through at least three layers of Google translate between different languages
Hold on, do we know that scum has flavor that matches the antagonists?In post 445, Tet wrote:This is kind of my main issue with mush's push on Ceph with the caveat being I have no idea about anything related to this game beyond the quick wiki scrub I did. So unless the founder guy kept some kind of diary and it is a CORE part of the game then this blatant flavor outing of cephrirs is just BS.In post 80, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Sure but only because it turns out she wasn't seeing what I saw, whoopsIn post 75, Cephrir wrote:i'd be interested in seeing you try to explain this without copying LLD's homeworkIn post 70, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Fluff isn't a crimeIn post 68, Cephrir wrote:how dare i attempt to have fun. i should be burned at the stake for this heinous crimeIn post 63, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mineIn post 61, Cephrir wrote:ah, good, we're going to have ~fun~ this game
It's the scum poking out of it
The content of your post reads EXACTLY in theme with a specific part of Control, but its a part that wouldn't be very likely to come up in a green role PM. If you hadn't fluffposted without thinking through the consequences of your actions you might have been fine, but instead you fluffposted in a way that gave the game away, precisely because you didn't know what you were talking about. Sorry bud
Compound that with Mush's trajectory on Ceph (which is good admittedly) and it doesn't seem believable. If Ceph's flavor was blatantly found in one of the two antagonists that were named then Ceph's rebuttals wouldn't matter. Because they slipped as scum.
Just so you know, I will start in the broken ass bits of latin I know, and translate through a Cyrillic and East Asian language to make sure none of the point gets through.In post 454, MegAzumarill wrote:New rule everyone must put their posts through at least three layers of Google translate between different languages
In post 452, The Three Bears wrote:Where is this? I skimmed Cephy's iso and did not see anything about like what flavor they are anywhere???In post 450, Tet wrote:Mush says Ceph flavor slipped
-baby bear
Where mush calls out Ceph for flavor. He voted in post 60 but claimed to have 1 read a little before post 60.In post 123, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Its not a secret. Your role PM is like blatantly either Trench or Dylan full stop send tweetIn post 117, Cephrir wrote:i would still like a more thorough explanation of post 80 mush
if you're right and i'm scum, then i will surely have already relayed what mistake i made to my scumteam, so i don't see what the harm could be in outing your secret flavor read
PEDIT: Dragons, buddy, friend, I don't know the dude and I don't use meta literally at all if I don't have personal history with a player, your arguments may be convincing to you but I'm immune to them? Sorry, it's like "ok so that's your history, enjoy that"
In post 57, Cephrir wrote:Day 2
Dear D.I.A.R.Y.,
So far the mission is going according to plan. No one has figured out that I'm an alien. The earthlings are... "friendly," as they say. I have much to learn about this culture. As of yet, I have not identified any Bad Earthlings. I hope the others can assist me, as the combination of my superior deductive capabilities and Earthling knowledge of their own traditions should surely be formidable.
Yours,
Ce'phyy
P.S. I don't know what Control is actually about.
... SCP?In post 464, Tet wrote:@Arcade: no but it's a reasonable assumption. As far as I've read up on control there are just different types of supernatural entities (like classes) and then the former founder as the main antagonist (controlling these entities maybe?) So them being part of the scum team flavor makes sense.
i am not townreading mush, but i didn't think your reasons for scumreading mush were goodIn post 455, The Three Bears wrote:On the topic of Cephy, I don't have a read but one thing I found weird was that he jumped on Mush for being defensive but then also gave my posts an 'x'. If he thought mush and i were svs, that would be weird. I'm also just all around confused on what his read on Mush is. I think though that Fenny saying that he had a decent read on Cephy makes me feel better about him.
-baby bear
According to MUSH, Cephrir is scum for 57 because it isn't likely to have come from a town role pm. Let me point out some of the various ways this argument is fallacious:In post 80, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:The content of your post reads EXACTLY in theme with a specific part of Control, but its a part that wouldn't be very likely to come up in a green role PM. If you hadn't fluffposted without thinking through the consequences of your actions you might have been fine, but instead you fluffposted in a way that gave the game away, precisely because you didn't know what you were talking about. Sorry bud
In post 106, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Ircher why do you think I'm making any claims about Cephrir specifically and not a general statement about anyone in the circumstances Cephrir finds himself in
MUSH's argument here is that I am scum at least in part because I misinterpreted one of MUSH's earlier posts as being a specific observation about Cephrir rather than a general observation. For reference, the post I misinterpreted was 63:In post 111, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Ceph and I have never played together, there is no meta being used here
I guess you're still scum. Great job bolstering my early hypothesis
I would like to point out that if you are reading chronologically (and thus haven't seen the elaboration in 80, then it is very easy to interpret this post as MUSH scum reading fluffposting in general. My assumption was since that in the general case, that does not equate scum, there must have been something specific between MUSH and Cephrir that led to Cephrir's post being scummy in MUSH's eyes. 70 does not contradict my initial assumption; in fact, it reinforced it. Finally, there was also Lady Lambdadelta's take in 71, and her take is in fact a meta read. These factors combined, my original assumption, while incorrect, was reasonable. The issue here is that MUSH is trying to twist this around and paint it as scum!me protecting scum!Cephrir. MUSH is completely ignoring the "how would town come to this assumption" and instead jumps straight to the conclusion that reinforces MUSH's own preexisting bias. The argument that I am scum for making an incorrect assumption is fallacious because it completely ignores all the other equally plausible scenario and instead picks the one that fits in the most with MUSH's narrative.In post 63, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mine
