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Dwlee99

(5): Lady Lambdadelta, T3, mastina, SirCakez, Shiro

T3

(1): Dwlee99

Shiro

(1): jjh927

Lady Lambdadelta

(1): skitter30

mastina

(1): Suripoko

Not Voting

(4): Rogue, That Idiot Ivan, StrangeMatter, The Bombay

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline: January 15, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-01-14 21:00:00)

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Malakittens head of Rogue v/la
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[skitter30]

In particular, for mastina:

- i strongly dislike her bombay read (i think all of their reads are fine, and i think she's ignoring the context of multiple rickrolls to call bombay's rogue vote 'bad' when it makes sense in context. Feels to me kinda like she's ignoring the context to push the read)

- some of her other reads feel someehat premature to me (ex: the one on rogue), but this doesnt bother me as much as the bombay one

[morph the cat]

Black Move 5

[jjh927]

Do the other bishop next! Play bh6! Become the clown you are meant to be!

[Dwlee99]

Your first bulletpoint makes me think you didn't think about why I'm townreading those slots yet. I've gone over each, but you didn't talk about those reasons or interact with those. Your second bulletpoint also makes me think this

I did, and think your reasons are p flat and uninspiring, and dont really have anything to say on any of them. The only ones i kinda agreed with were bombay and jjh, the rest were p empty

The one i'm most interested in is pookydra, and want to know if there's anything more to this read than 'vague townping because of a hectic alt somewhere' and 'if the pr is real its probably town' (why?)
Are you getting anythibg ai out of what they're actually communicating?

Strange and cake have towntold further after I posted my initial townreads of them. Do you not agree with that?

I don't think I've seen scum get post restrictions ever? It seems like just giving scum a reason to post worse which ruins day play. But I also don't think scum!pooky wants to give up agency to post in hardly decipherable images

[That Idiot Ivan]

In particular, for mastina:

- i strongly dislike her bombay read (i think all of their reads are fine, and i think she's ignoring the context of multiple rickrolls to call bombay's rogue vote 'bad' when it makes sense in context. Feels to me kinda like she's ignoring the context to push the read)

- some of her other reads feel someehat premature to me (ex: the one on rogue), but this doesnt bother me as much as the bombay one

Do you think mastina veers so far from 'popular' opinion? As I said, I'm having trouble separating my dislike of some NAI stuff from her versus her gameplay, but the actual relevant content doesn't look agenda-driven. What are you seeing, if you're up for discussing more about it?

[Dwlee99]

Skitter the thing I don't like about your slot rn is I really feel like you're making this big show of communicating with me so you can move your vote on me in a "justified" way later. Like your positions feel kinda telegraphed and it just feels like you want to corral your opinion into a scumread onto me, not actually solve me

[The Bombay]

Yes, jjh927 is a townread.

I'll be honest, I was about to townread Dwlee99, but they just keep getting worse.

[T3]

As a result of the chess game, Dwlee should be eliminated.

[T3]

Yes, jjh927 is a townread.

I'll be honest, I was about to townread Dwlee99, but they just keep getting worse.

please don't townread him

[Dwlee99]

Yea t3 you're gonna need to explain that one

[Dwlee99]

T3, I wish we had a neighborhood right now lol

[skitter30]

Strange and cake have towntold further after I posted my initial townreads of them. Do you not agree with that?

I don't think I've seen scum get post restrictions ever? It seems like just giving scum a reason to post worse which ruins day play.

But I also don't think scum!pooky wants to give up agency to post in hardly decipherable images

I agree with strange, i dont really have an opinion on cakez, and am not sure i saw him town telling, can u pull a few posts where you think he did?

Wrt the bolded - very fair actually, i didnt think of that. Although tbf if ydra didnt really want to *tryhard* as scum rn i can kinda see a universe where they land on this as a 'solution' so to speak

For your other point:
- i feel like you were making a big point last night of trying to make some sort of comparison from that game to this one, and were asking for some sort of ~response~ from me, so was trying to understand what you were getting at, so that's what i was trying to do last night
- and my opinion is kinda changing on you, and i now do at least understand the reasons people are scumreading you. At the same time, i am not convinced you're scum, for a few reasons (* gonna asterisk this and address this later down), so i'm trying to understand more what u were thinking at the time of the infamous poe
- despite that, i'm not really planning on voting u rn, i am not as convinced of my lld scumread anymore, i am thinking of switching to mastina

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* reasons i'm not convinced dwlee is scum:
- i think they can make up better reasons to tr people, especially when they got pushback on cakez/stranger: the explanations later (on mastina, bombay, etc) were not much better, and i think they *would* be better if they were scum
- i think 228 is nai for them
- not sure their immediate reaction to the lld push is omgus (tbf i am not as confident on this point as some of the others)

Also just generally i'm not sure i'm vibing with the wagon overall rn

[skitter30]

Do you think mastina veers so far from 'popular' opinion? As I said, I'm having trouble separating my dislike of some NAI stuff from her versus her gameplay, but the actual relevant content doesn't look agenda-driven. What are you seeing, if you're up for discussing more about it?

For the first question: idk her personally well enuf to say, but why not?

For the second question: sure we can discuss, what do i want to talk abt?

[skitter30]

As a result of the chess game, Dwlee should be eliminated.

Very curious

[T3]

tbh i just realized that my logic may be a little shaky, but i think they tmi'ed something about the chess game
so i'd like dwlee to claim what he knows about the chess game.

[T3]

more specifically, i think that dwlee should claim their color in the chess game.

[skitter30]

I am so confused

[Dwlee99]

I'm not involved in the chess game

[The Bombay]

What's your line here on Bombay then? Guessing it's different to LLD's

Thanks for the response. It is not what I expected, but then I looked back at the post that made me ask, and I think I misread the intent behind it. Ignore me.

[The Bombay]

That is the wrong quote.

On an unrelated note, jjh, what is your read of Mastina?

I have a tendency to just townread Mastina. This is correct most of the time, but my awareness of the tendency still lowers my faith on my early Mastina reads

Currently I am townreading Mastina

[The Bombay]

~Luke

[Dwlee99]

@skitter I think cakez seems to genuinely think I'm scum and I think he'd have a worse time of it as scum

[T3]

I received a PM saying that white won the chess game on time. The players may continue to play the game, but it will not affect the result. The players in the game have been informed of the winner, and then some additional info.

White and Black should claim.

[The Bombay]

That is a surprise

Well, FYI, Mastina frequently memeclaims mason, particularly if she is in a neighbourhood that is not a masonry, although inevitably also in the event that she was an actual mason or similarly functioning role (however the likelihood of this scenario is statistically low)

I was in a "monkery" with Mastina, and she did not claim to be a mason (or a monk for that matter). To be fair, it makes more sense to not claim it when you are actually in one.

This is a pointless observation. If she fake claims it enough for you to say this, it is moot. I just found it interesting in an NAI kind of way.

~Luke

pedit: It seems intersting things are happening while I am trying to catch up