Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

[mc esther]

wh, what?

[mc esther]

curious as to whether you've read my iso, mc esther?

no but that's a fair request i'll read it now

[Dwlee99]

Imagine thinking I'm scum omegalol

[Enchant]

RH9 is person i fine with killing (it's actually not telling, i have half of game in this list for now).

[Voyc]

I'm not saying you're scum, you're pretty null to me
But if people are going to stop voting on RH9/Mocha that have been the leading wagons for scummy reasons to go for coasting reasons
Yeah I'd rather go for you

[Dwlee99]

keep my name out of u r mouth

[mc esther]

voyc, do you still think firebringer's scum?

[Voyc]

I dont think Ive ever said I thought he was scum?

I think he's pretty townie for what it's worth but I dont discard that what makes me think so I think he could do as scum
But Im ok w him! Dont want to vote him

[mc esther]

you scumread toogeloo is why i asked

i cant stop thinking about how embarrassing this will be if voyc flips town and rh9 is scum...

[Voyc]

oh
I forgot about Toog tbh
:l
I feel a bit bad about forgetting now

[mc esther]

keeping track of replacements is impossible lmao i keep needing to check the playerlist

i really do need to go to bed now, i'll reconsider my vote in the morning

[numberQ]

The voyc wagon is surprising, she has a low post count but I wouldn't call her ISO "coasting". There was some effort there, certainly more than players like Alyssa. Will flipping Voyc help us figure out someone else? I still like the RH9 wagon more, if only because VCA alone will tell us more about the reset of the game state imo.

I droped fear of jester long ago.

Only motivation to not kill Jester is +1 elim on mafia needed.

I think chaos and havok created by simple existence of jest already cost us far more.


We can't just let idiots to let fool us with jestering unpunished.

I don't always agree with Enchant's takes. But this one, I'm starting to believe.

Though I had a thought literally as I was about to hit submit, is this just jester trying to convince us to lim him despite jester telling?

[Enchant]

The voyc wagon is surprising, she has a low post count but I wouldn't call her ISO "coasting". There was some effort there, certainly more than players like Alyssa. Will flipping Voyc help us figure out someone else? I still like the RH9 wagon more, if only because VCA alone will tell us more about the reset of the game state imo.

I droped fear of jester long ago.

Only motivation to not kill Jester is +1 elim on mafia needed.

I think chaos and havok created by simple existence of jest already cost us far more.


We can't just let idiots to let fool us with jestering unpunished.

I don't always agree with Enchant's takes. But this one, I'm starting to believe.

Though I had a thought literally as I was about to hit submit, is this just jester trying to convince us to lim him despite jester telling?

Let's assume i am Jester for example.

Do you think i will be NKed?
How it will influence gamestate if i am elimmed?

[Milk & Mocha]

Imagine trying to sort alignment based on "effort"

this is some 1960s Stasi shit going on right here

[numberQ]

[snip]

Let's assume i am Jester for example.

Do you think i will be NKed?
How it will influence gamestate if i am elimmed?

NK speculation before it happens seems like a bad idea to me. What is gained by me answering that first question?

The second question, you being jester and then flipping will tell us a lot about all the people faking their jester tells. Whether it means they're scum or not is on a case by case basis. Though that's true of any jester flip.

[Enchant]

Exactly.

We achieved such state where if jester claims, i help him win, just to end these paranoid games.

If you think i persuading you to elim me, you fucking wrong, i advocate for elimming jester-tellers because jester will not jester tell, he will try to pass as mafia who trying to pass as town but fails. I am blatant not-jester, you believing i am one is hilarious.

[Dwlee99]

I think enchant is town here

[numberQ]

I see what you're saying Enchant. Though you're acting like it's incredibly obvious that the jester won't jester tell, and if that's true then would anyone be trying to jester tell at all? I struggle to see a reason to do that besides A) trying to make no one want to kill you, B) throwing up a smokescreen so the real jester might get NKed, or C) just trolling. Besides C, all of those goals would require the person jester telling to think that jester telling has a realistic chance of making them seem like the jester. So ultimately I don't think this is an obvious line of logic, but I do think it's an insightful one.

If there's a believable jester hardclaim, I think there's merit in voting them out.

For now though I'll do this. I like M&M for the lim more than Voyc, and RH9 wagon has dropped off.

VOTE: M&M

[Milk & Mocha]

wait why would the jester not jester tell?

[Enchant]

I don't care about Jester.

You should't as well.

That's my main point.

[RH9]

@Kerset VC

[RH9]

I droped fear of jester long ago.

Only motivation to not kill Jester is +1 elim on mafia needed.

I think chaos and havok created by simple existence of jest already cost us far more.


We can't just let idiots to let fool us with jestering unpunished.

Seems like a good point. It might help boost motivation.

[mc esther]

dwlee99, why not rh9?

[mc esther]

regardless, i think every other non-rh9 player who's posted so far has given explicit support for the rh9 wagon, perhaps consensus is not so hard lmao

UNVOTE:
VOTE: rh9

if three decides mocha isnt jester, very happy to wagon there too, but for now i strongly agree that we should just stump the jester.

[RH9]

regardless, i think every other non-rh9 player who's posted so far has given explicit support for the rh9 wagon, perhaps consensus is not so hard lmao

UNVOTE:
VOTE: rh9

if three decides mocha isnt jester, very happy to wagon there too, but for now i strongly agree that we should just stump the jester.

Ok. Sure. I agree with the last sentence.