CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[NorwegianboyEE]

If not i will be shocked.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Three Bears, Mastina and Mush is my block of trusted individuals ATM.
More applications are welcome.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’d locktown LLD too for that fake dayvig thing, but then they were like: "i’d do this as scum too" which was a bit uhhhhh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I’d locktown LLD too for that fake dayvig thing, but then they were like: "i’d do this as scum too" which was a bit uhhhhh.

Did I say that?

I mean I would do it as scum, it's not indicative of my alignment. Nothing at this point is outside of my scum range. I convinced someone to fake claim masons with me and then janitor killed them to win a game.

I'm pretty well locked into "don't locktown me ever" for life. I'm comfortable with that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

God my connection died for 20 minutes.
Actually i misremembered LLD. You said: "i agree my fake dayvig wasn’t AI".

[Greeting]

greeting just seems so townie it looks like you're scum who can't see that and are doubling down on a bad read

disagree about greeting
VOTE: greeting
in fact

theres a kind of annoyance at the resistance to mush push that feels scum-indic and the curiosity that accompinies is kinda performative and weird-agressive.
258 prolly the best example of this.

Yeah, sure, I was annoyed that I'm not getting 9 players to follow my lead immediately into

MUSHSHAGANA

, that's totally what was happening. I expect everyone to follow my orders immediately, did you hear that, y'all?

Yeah I know my reads list sucks, once we cut the player list in half and we're more than 48 hours into the game it'll probably look better.

"Contains a few scum" isn't a fake statement. My reads aren't strong but I feel like my read rate early in the game is usually 50/50, so I feel that some of my scum reads are probably correct.

STD what kind of low level scum do you think I am that I would telegraph an Ircher miselim like that? If I was scum and he was town I'd just vote him, it really wouldn't be hard to blend in with a wagon that would have twelve people on it.

Idk why you think my explanation of the Greeting vote is fake. I think your reaction is fake if anything lol.

I don't think LLD and Greeting are aligned because I town read one and scum read the other.

You haven't really given much reasoning for all the rest of your reads other than myself at that point, so don't be surprised if others take it just as a post and not an actual readslist, and by doing that, judge the fact that you have posted it on its own.

I disagree with the notion that it's 100% rational for scum to just jump on

Ircher

's wagon if he's town. If he's eliminated and he's town, that would be a miselim and if I were scum, I'd expect that town would try to analyse anyone who played part in that miselim. And in the case of town

Ircher

being voted out, I will definitely be looking more closely at people who voted for them. Even if something happens later in the game that convinces me to jump on that wagon myself after all.

And I would like to provide mrs. logic with some emotional support with regard to your reasoning of me being unaligned with

Lady Lambdadelta

because she has been utterly violated. You have provided a thesis that both of us are unaligned and now you're backtracking from it and claiming that it's not what you meant. That's.. bad, but I'm not yet sure if it's scum indicative.

greeting just seems so townie it looks like you're scum who can't see that and are doubling down on a bad read

If I'm scum the read wouldn't be bad lol, it would just be wrong. Weird that you'd apply town logic to me if you're scum reading me.

I don't think you're understanding what

Save The Dragons

meant, although I've had trouble understanding what they meant as well. What I think he meant was: "you're looking from a scum perspective, therefore you're not seeing how towny

Greeting

is being". Since the sentiment is regarding me, I won't be analysing whether it is true or not because there's no point in me doing this from my perspective.

ehhh I can see someone saying "bad play=antitown=scum" in their head tbh, and Roden joindate makes that feel more likely even???????

The anti-alignment of LLD and Greeting is fully fabricated tho LOL and REGARDLESS of alignment bro needs to walk that shit back big time like why you gotta make shit up, just say you had a gut read LOL

I feel like it's pretty clear that it has to be partially based on a gut read.

You haven't made that clear at all.

[Greeting]

IF X, THEN Y vs JUST X AND Y

one of lld/greeting is scum is not the same as I townread lld and scumread greeting.

Say it even louder for the people in the back!

Thing is, and I am WIFOM-ing now, I'm not sure if scum

Roden

really wouldn't have anticipated this blatant logical mistake being called out.

[Greeting]

I always find it funny when previous scum buddies see my playstyle and thought process in detail, then see me act the complete opposite in another game and accuse me of being scum lol.

By funny I mean tiring.

I have a suggestion. If you're town then please stop this siege mentality thing and listen to what is being said about your point.

[Greeting]

VOTE: Galron

I didn't post between 559 and this. What's changed so you're no longer voting me?

[Greeting]

For the record, this is bad modding as it has a direct influence on the game, namely?

I'm conftowning both LLD and Three Bears from it.

I'm leaning (but not conftowning) town on both of them because of this too actually. Mod's actions in regard to

Lady Lambdadelta

have benefitted town if

Lady Lambdadelta

is town clearly, because they elicited a reaction from one head of the three-headed hydra, and I am judging the reaction was rather towny.

So much confidence and putting up a whole readslist after so much meme-ing and fluff that was in this game?

This is unfortunately what mastina does at the beginning of the game. I wouldn't put much stock into its accuracy, but it's not alignment indicative for mastina.

Yeah, I'm considering this, but I'm not sure if that's everyone's understanding though - there are, after all, players scumreading her for it.

If it is though

, that would those players in a bad light as trying to take advantage of her gameplay.

[Greeting]

So much confidence and putting up a whole readslist after so much meme-ing and fluff that was in this game?

Honestly I don't blame you for saying that as you're fairly new but if any experienced player can't get reads on the majority of the playerlist from those first two pages they're frankly incompetent, those are the two most alignment-telling pages I've ever seen ever.

...just no.

I genuinely think it's honestly the best readslist I've made so no, not questionable; I stand by all those reads as being INCREDIBLY likely to be accurate.

These?

Spoiler:

VOTE: Greeting

Fourth

Ah shit, here we go again.

Going to be VLA for a couple days. My mom is Covid positive and I’m either Covid positive or I got the flu, but waiting on results. I just can’t stay awake for more than a couple minutes right now :/

Town.

VOTE: Roden

Town?

Second
VOTE: MUSH
For tunneling me last game

Scum?

First
VOTE: MUSH

Good evening
VOTE: Bell

Scum.

I laughed out too hard, my neighbors now probably think I'm mad.

[Tet]

Greeting what changed your read on Mush?

[Greeting]

Greeting what changed your read on Mush?

I agree with what has been said in the second part of your post and that's also part of my objection with regard to

MUSHSHAGANA

's slot too. Thing is, there's a lot of strong voices in defense of this slot which involves that player's meta and it's made me more hesitant to go with that too. Which is why I dropped it.

Sure, I prefer reads over meta, but if others claim that's what's going on here then I also start hesitating more.

But that doesn't mean it's a townread, I just decided to withdraw for the time being.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My read on Mush has nothing to do with meta.

[Arcade Pals]

I believe Greeting is talking about this:

Spoiler:

I don't really work on Meta, this is a behavioural read based on past experience. This is not "When Ceph does this, he's scum!" it's "based on my experiences with Ceph, this behaviour leans this way"

Isn't that what meta is, though? Judgement of someone's play by how they played in other games, regardless of whether you've been in that game or not?

Oh, and also also, nothing of your posts has really kind of said anything which is the irony part. You're saying a lot of words and accomplishing... not much. I'd probably swallow the ego a little and dig in a little more.

I quite disagree and my ego has very little to do with anything I do in mafia games.

Not really? like Meta is literally taking tendancies from one game and kind of trust telling them into another. See: Mastina always claims Mason as a meme

That's meta.

As for your posts... like there's a lot of words and not a lot said. Like you wrote a lot about Ceph but missed Mush's point and completely misunderstood mine.

The Ego part of this is that you could have dug into either of our arguments with lines of questioning that might have informed you about our alignments but you thought you understood our arguments and now I'm here telling you that you've gone 0/2 on that regard.

Hence... Ego.

[Arcade Pals]

I ain't doing nothin either.

Are you scum tho

No but I keep having to check my rc because it's a weird role.

This was a weird post to make.

[Arcade Pals]

It's a sad day when we're in the top half of posters in a large

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Wow what was I thinking last night. don't drunkpost kids fuckin LOL

RODEN you're a scumfuck and your 1v1s are making pointless noise and I'm starting to see you're the one keeping them fucking going??? Reminding me of like how Noraa n shellyc could control shit as scum by making themselves so loathed people would start to doubt their reads and give em townpasses on acct of it looooool I hate it here omg

Ircher Roden T3 scum lim in there pls lets gooooooooooooo and also Galron isnt paying attention to the game just fuckin namescanning??????? LOL WHAT is UP my dude???? and mastina's fuckin weird -- I think thats town bc there's a handful of cases I agree with instantly even tho I cant explain it, even if rest is like. complete bs

Arcade idfk could be scum wish theyd sign the damn posts LOL could maybe tell better then, don't like bears rn, Tet's weird Idk whats up there, DRAGONS + LLD SO FUCKIN TOWN, Greeting's townnnnnnn I guesssss god I hate it here tho, Norwegian's prob like,not scum? but like the play is so weaaaak atm step it up pls and thx, and can our lurkers fucking POST OMG

But what's weirdddddd is Roden v Cephrir, is this scum theater, like ???? i think this is the scummiest Ceph's been but Roden's so so soooooooooOOOOOOO scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would i need to step up my game. I think i’m doing just fine. I’ve got some decent reads so far that i don’t think i will ever doubt.

[MegAzumarill]

RODEN you're a scumfuck and your 1v1s are making pointless noise and I'm starting to see you're the one keeping them fucking going??? Reminding me of like how Noraa n shellyc could control shit as scum by making themselves so loathed people would start to doubt their reads and give em townpasses on acct of it looooool I hate it here omg

I would like to know what makes you think this is the case

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I don't think Roden's getting townpasses, honestly. It's more feeling the same than being the same. Hey, unrelated, can you post more? Thanks.

Norw, you might have reads, but you aren't elaborating on them and your reasoning is kind of mystifying as a result. It makes /you/ hard to read. Coasting scum? I don't know, could be.

[MegAzumarill]

Hey, unrelated, can you post more? Thanks.

Spoiler:

No

[T3]

i think i'm going to completely ignore mush for now because they sound drunk every time they post tbh

[T3]

mastina does a lot of hocus pocus to get her reads and trying to read her off of her reads is just bad

[The Three Bears]

skim skim skim but like t3 is being so towny. it cant be real right? as for roden, given our history, im not gonna even attempt to read him. pretty sure it'll end up a SR nine times out of ten regardless of his alignment. norwee looking scummier by the second. idk reads just feel very very tmi-y. it just feels really informed but idk why. idk about massy. ok bai o/

oh wait. last thing, i find massy really really towny. idk what that means but i wanna believe it.

-baby bear