open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[SirCakez]

I also don't like that whenever I talk about SRing him he tries to turn it into "lol cakez just wants to catch me"

[SirCakez]

VOTE: catboi
This guy is scum and I bet that's why Faker was killed

Ah, there it is

fuck off I can push you without it being some grudge-related thing you always try to make it out to be

Touchy.

Why’s he scum other than the kill then?

I think the way he maneuvered around the wagons day 1 was scummy now that we have some flips

Okay so where at?

how the hell did you respond so quickly lol
I'll go pull some quotes

[Mare]

Power.

[SirCakez]

separately think Sleepless has been flagrantly self-preservative first and foremost throughout this.

Can you give me some examples of this?

VOTE: sleepless

reread the iso and almost all of the last 40-ish posts are white noise

this progression looks super scum-motivated now that we know Sleepless was town

was halfway to writing a post on sleepless but opened flow trap's iso to check when their last post was relative to the rest of the game, and kind of hate that flow dipped right after promising to catch up :/. Know that the inactivity isn't an alignment tell but the fact that it came after that specific post makes me feel like it's more than likely they had trouble coming up with things to say as part of a catchup and dipped

like for example look at this
he was leaving himself open to vote both wagons regardless of where the tides went

Andante: town
skitter30: null
midwaybear: probably town
Mare: lean town
innocentvillager: town
SirCakez: lean scum
Faker: sheepishly admitting he's town
catboi - nya
Menalque: scumlean from pooky, willing to give him time to get into the game
Datisi: lean town
northsidegal: probably town, under the impression she's fairly polarized and think posting is all right so far
Sleepless Assassin: null
flow trap: scum
Something_Smart: null

In draft order because that's more fun

I guess if the wagons are unsatisfying I'd entertain a vote on something_smart, or if I were feeling particularly spicy, skitter

and look at this readslist he has Flow as scum but never once really went after flow at EoD he just sat on Sleepless

[Andante]

I don't think midway is maf, and that is really wrecking my thoughts going into today. so what about a Datisi/Pooky/flow team... Like, if any maf in the world would pick the same number, it'd be pooky and dats... I don't think this is unreasonable

[Datisi]

skitter, explain to me why andante is town here before i start tunnelling her for the nonsense she's saying, please

[Mare]

I don’t really want to go for the Pooky/Mena slot.

Might just vote Flow/Alyssa after a bit.

[catboi]

separately think Sleepless has been flagrantly self-preservative first and foremost throughout this.

Can you give me some examples of this?

VOTE: sleepless

reread the iso and almost all of the last 40-ish posts are white noise

this progression looks super scum-motivated now that we know Sleepless was town

was halfway to writing a post on sleepless but opened flow trap's iso to check when their last post was relative to the rest of the game, and kind of hate that flow dipped right after promising to catch up :/. Know that the inactivity isn't an alignment tell but the fact that it came after that specific post makes me feel like it's more than likely they had trouble coming up with things to say as part of a catchup and dipped

like for example look at this
he was leaving himself open to vote both wagons regardless of where the tides went

Andante: town
skitter30: null
midwaybear: probably town
Mare: lean town
innocentvillager: town
SirCakez: lean scum
Faker: sheepishly admitting he's town
catboi - nya
Menalque: scumlean from pooky, willing to give him time to get into the game
Datisi: lean town
northsidegal: probably town, under the impression she's fairly polarized and think posting is all right so far
Sleepless Assassin: null
flow trap: scum
Something_Smart: null

In draft order because that's more fun

I guess if the wagons are unsatisfying I'd entertain a vote on something_smart, or if I were feeling particularly spicy, skitter

and look at this readslist he has Flow as scum but never once really went after flow at EoD he just sat on Sleepless

you just quoted a readslist out of context to incriminate me for not wanting to vote flow later in the day

[catboi]

Like it should be blatantly obvious how my progression went there and that I convinced myself sleepless was the better vote but waffled there

Also why do I need to keep myself open to both votes if it's T/T like you're hypothesizing??

[catboi]

VOTE: catboi
This guy is scum and I bet that's why Faker was killed

Ah, there it is

fuck off I can push you without it being some grudge-related thing you always try to make it out to be

Also: calm the fuck down

[midwaybear]

Yes because I literally cared less about the vote and did so openly lmao.

Ya, your end of day didn't read that well either. I'm voting Datisi because whim/gut

[catboi]

I am not particularly in the mood for this right now


What I was thinking was that I'd rather shift my attention toward someone who was low impact day 1 but didn't get a lot of attention, felt something_smart fit that bill, so skimmed his day 1 ISO, didn't like it, put a vote there. I get the explanation for Holiday dance party but not sure it changes anything in my mind (I knew he was scum that game and mostly stopped paying attention). I guess the vote on andante is

some

form of action here but I don't really like it


I still need to to properly read back. I also don't feel like doing that right now.

[skitter30]

skitter, explain to me why andante is town here before i start tunnelling her for the nonsense she's saying, please

she isn't frozen, is interating in real time, and her thoughts are changing in a trackable fashion (i.e. when she's scum she doesn't really have reads, and isn't nearly as dynamic)

i don't think she's scum, and won't support a push on her

[skitter30]

i lowkey think midway and ss are town too, don't particularly want to push either rn
i think we need to push nsg more tho

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I feel like what I'm reading about the game and the way it's progressing atm is really incongruent

[skitter30]

in what way

[midwaybear]

Ye, I townread Andante and sort of townread skitter. Based off of Sleepless (rip) claim, we know that there is either doctor or roleblocker in this game. I'm pretty sure skitter and Andante were also pretty townread yesterday, so it would make sense for scum to try to kill them. But, if my reads on them are right (hopefully), scum didn't kill them because they fear that doc might be on them. This explains why skitter and Andante are alive I think and I will probably townread whoever claims doctor (maybe not locktown but pretty sure there is doc).
Note: This sort of hinges on everything above being true which idk how likely that is. But I want to take that risk.

Also, I do think scum would aim higher, so there's at least one scum in Datisi/Mena imo (probably just one; but double is tinfoil).

[catboi]

i lowkey think midway and ss are town too, don't particularly want to push either rn
i think we need to push nsg more tho

Why do you think midway is town

[catboi]

Ye, I townread Andante and sort of townread skitter. Based off of Sleepless (rip) claim, we know that there is either doctor or roleblocker in this game. I'm pretty sure skitter and Andante were also pretty townread yesterday, so it would make sense for scum to try to kill them. But, if my reads on them are right (hopefully), scum didn't kill them because they fear that doc might be on them. This explains why skitter and Andante are alive I think and I will probably townread whoever claims doctor (maybe not locktown but pretty sure there is doc).
Note: This sort of hinges on everything above being true which idk how likely that is. But I want to take that risk.

Also, I do think scum would aim higher, so there's at least one scum in Datisi/Mena imo (probably just one; but double is tinfoil).

Okay but then why vote Datisi over Menalque

[Alyssa The Lamb]

in what way

I guess I said it a bit wrong

It feels really odd how posturey some people are being without really committing to anything immediately

It kinda hit me that it might be why those two were killed specifically so maybe it's scum indicative

[Alyssa The Lamb]

But it's really funny how my slot is being postured as the leading wagon as an aside

[skitter30]

i lowkey think midway and ss are town too, don't particularly want to push either rn
i think we need to push nsg more tho

Why do you think midway is town

the same sort of gut thing that was telling me sleepless was town is telling me midway is town
to try to quantify:

- the way he's posturing around his pr seems town-indicative
- kinda do understand his flow progression
- he's being a little bit ~unimpressive~, but i'm not sure why that's more likely to come from scum-him than town-him
- honestly i'm not sure what the compelling scum-story is for him

[skitter30]

in what way

I guess I said it a bit wrong

It feels really odd how

posturey some people are being

without really committing to anything immediately

It kinda hit me that it might be why those two were killed specifically so maybe it's scum indicative

what do you mean by the bolded
and you were a leading wagon, you were like one vote away from getting flipped yesterday, so not sure what you mean by the latter post

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Unless I missed something, there were only really weak or just compromise reasons to vote my slot

Andante seemed not very interested to engage with me about her thoughts
Cakez pretty much dismissed my vote and immediately moved on

Other than you, pretty much everyone else has been treating the slot like I'm not here and slotting me into scumteams because... reasons, I guess

Idk the whole thing makes me feel like it's not natural

[skitter30]

who was your third townread btw?

and i have to say i'm not sure i'm having the same vibe as you as it being unnatural, at least today .... i guess i kinda feel like once yesterday got 'decided' to be between flow/sleepless scum felt like they didnt have to do much ... i feel like the people who were switching to midway/sircakez are probably +town