open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[catboi]

And you gave the pretense of "wanting to get me sorted" but are not trying to do that whatsoever

[skitter30]

i mean i voted you to try to get some sort of reaction out of you that i could read, you ignored my vote, didn't have a comment when i asked you about it, so yes i'm escalating it a bit. i need you to interact with me back ...

no, i don't have a case, but i'm not calling you scum, i said as much above that i'm voting you to try to sort you. if you're scum i want to figure that out today, if you're town i also want to figure that out today, and i don't know a better way to make that happen; if you have one i'm all ears

what scumread do you think i'm shutting down

[midwaybear]

menalque did essentially ~nothing at EOD which struck me as odd that you'd be more critical of Datisi there

I just talked myself into treating Pooky's rep out as NAI which was probably a big reason I was hesitant on that slot earlier. But I think another reason might just be that mena is somewhat not-present this game. So I think it's more productive to vote Datisi and get him to talk than it is to vote Mena. I don't think I have gotten much out of Datisi's responses to me, but that is probably because I haven't really given him much to respond to lol
Anyways, I don't necessarily want Datisi dead over Mena, but I just think a vote on him does more at this point.

@skitter why do you townread SS?

[midwaybear]

No, because taking the posts out of order is ignoring how my thoughts actually progressed

tbf. Even with the posts in order, you still seem to leave yourself open to voting both which was part of Cakez's argument. But I don't really find that in itself to be scum indicative because yesterday's wagons just generally were bad and confusing.

[midwaybear]

so what about a Datisi/Pooky/flow team... Like, if any maf in the world would pick the same number, it'd be pooky and dats... I don't think this is unreasonable

It's not unreasonable. But I don't think guessing scumteams is very productive at this point in the game. Maybe later in the game but definitely not now. Can you explain your scumreads? Any or all.

[skitter30]

@skitter why do you townread SS?

- i liked his refusal to vote sleepless yesterday / his townread of sleepless
- i liked his read on mare
- i liked his reaction to my pushing him

[midwaybear]

rip i dont see any of those as townie on first glance
also

Gun to my head, Mare is town

mare is low key openwolving this game imo

[skitter30]

Why do u think scum-him is so adament against voting sleepless?

[midwaybear]

And you weren't acting like someone with a healthy fear of death, yesterday or today.

I don't agree with the first part of this (that Andante didn't fear death yesterday). It seems to me that she genuinely believed that she was going to die N1 which is why her activity dropped a few irl days into Day 1 and why her play seemed so lackluster.
But Andante, I don't think you should sideline yourself today.

pedit: Because he can get towncred from sleepless flipping green? Sleepless was probably flipping anyways. I'm not saying that it is scummy from him, but I don't think its unlikely for SS to do that as scum

[midwaybear]

VOTE: Mare
Back to this vote because I think she is just blatantly scummy. My read on Datisi hasn't rlly changed though.

[midwaybear]

Voting mare also means I have to revisit Cakez. So that will be soon.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

if you want to try to convince me, you can

I'll at least listen

[midwaybear]

It seems like she just doesn't care much about solving this game. And she's posted enough where it seems to me just like scum keeping appearance than a townie that is checked out.

[Mare]

[Alyssa The Lamb]

meh

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Spoiler:

I return to the land of the temporarily dead

I'll be watching, don't burn down the place while I'm gone

ty

[Datisi]

midway, have you gained anything from voting me? if you think it would help you sort me, why haven't you given anything for mw to respond to before unvoting?

[catboi]

i mean i voted you to try to get some sort of reaction out of you that i could read, you ignored my vote, didn't have a comment when i asked you about it, so yes i'm escalating it a bit. i need you to interact with me back ...

no, i don't have a case, but i'm not calling you scum, i said as much above that i'm voting you to try to sort you. if you're scum i want to figure that out today, if you're town i also want to figure that out today, and i don't know a better way to make that happen; if you have one i'm all ears

what scumread do you think i'm shutting down

Why would you ever think I'm going to have a reaction to a vote like that, as either alignment? If you want me to interact, I recommend

using your words

. I do not understand what telling Alyssa to vote me does for the purpose of sorting me. I put my initial vote down on S_S, you call him town, I talk with midway about his read on datisi/menalque and you think the menaslot is town, it certainly

looks

like you're undercutting what I'm saying

[catboi]

@skitter why do you townread SS?

- i liked his refusal to vote sleepless yesterday / his townread of sleepless
- i liked his read on mare
- i liked his reaction to my pushing him

Why is any of this a towntell for him?

[skitter30]

Why would you ever think I'm going to have a reaction to a vote like that, as either alignment? If you want me to interact, I recommend using your words. I do not understand what telling Alyssa to vote me does for the purpose of sorting me. I put my initial vote down on S_S, you call him town, I talk with midway about his read on datisi/menalque and you think the menaslot is town, it certainly looks like you're undercutting what I'm saying

I was even looking for something like 'why are you voting me', that's kinda the level of reaction i was looking for ... some sort of something that i can use to have a convo back

I'm also not sure i told alyssa to vote you, but ok

I also wouldnt say i'm undercutting your reads either, so much as sharing my opinion on them (also with the hopes that you'd comment back, but you're right, i should have been more direct)

[skitter30]

@skitter why do you townread SS?

- i liked his refusal to vote sleepless yesterday / his townread of sleepless
- i liked his read on mare
- i liked his reaction to my pushing him

Why is any of this a towntell for him?

- dunno why scum-him postures around not voting sleepless, seems easy enuf to just vote him. Also he had a pretty early townread on sleepless' big wall, and was pretty resolute in defending it throughougt despite pressure from a variety of people voting there, which makes me think it was a real read he had the whole time
- this was is more just a ping
- i liked the whole string of posts ~1736 - ~ 1759, particularly 1745, i'm not sure scum-him pushes back and tells me i'm making an inaccurate comparison, or gets so grumpy about the comparison i'm making, or would respond that way to being 'threatened'

[Andante]

Datisi seems more interested in people's reads on him than actively finding maf, that's one thing I've really noticed here, probably means he's maf, but not a path I'm going down right now.
Datisi, who is maf?

[SirCakez]

I'm around but I'm traveling so I'm not gonna posting anything really unless I'm asked

[Andante]

unless I'm asked

in depth reads on everyone here please

jk

[Datisi]

Datisi seems more interested in people's reads on him than actively finding maf

why do you assume that doing the former means i'm not doing the latter?