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[The Bombay]

Useless argument.

[jjh927]

I mean, the point I'm making is you reached a correct conclusion from incorrect grounds

No more than that though

[Suripoko]

VOTE: suripoko
Here I'll vote this for that shitty hammer

VOTE: SirCakez

[That Idiot Ivan]

VOTE: The Bombay

VOTE: SirCakez
Not as good as Bombay imo but hey I'm down to wagon my second scumread.

So what do we have here. You come into the day after sheeping LLD on an incorrect wagon, but have nothing to say about that state of affairs. You return immediately to your previous day's scum read despite new information from flips. Then despite the plurality rules in play, you immediately jump onto a purported secondary scum read (that has absolutely nothing in your posting to persuade anyone of its likelihood). No probing into your previous strong town read of Suripoko despite their obnoxious hammer.

Care to share why on earth anyone should be townreading this play?

P-edit: Suripoko, cut the crap. Post like a useful player. And explain yourself.

[Suripoko]

Also if anyone got a jailkeeping role, ik it is hard to pick a target so that you don't fuck over town - feel free to target me

I'm pretty well locked in today. Dwlee needs to die today. Their pushes are ineffectual and they were given space and time to create them.

Their reads are bad and fabricated, and they were never put in a position where their reads had to be forced.

Their flip flopping on me is opportunistic and appears more motivated by what will keep them alive than what is actually scummy.

This is scum, please vote Dwlee and let's move this game along. Or if you won't vote Dwlee, explain to me why and tell me who you are counterwagonning instead.

[That Idiot Ivan]

Yeah, you know darn well that that doesn't mean 'hammer without a claim' here.

VOTE: Suripoko

[jjh927]

I mean, you E-1ed someone like 3 days into the game

I blame the majority of people on the wagon for that, not just the hammerer

[That Idiot Ivan]

Majority? Who don't you blame?

[jjh927]

That is, 3 irl days

The point is that town will sometimes just decide to hammer, and sometimes people hammer without realising, and sometimes scum fake either of these sentiments
The way to avoid a premature hammer is not to wagon people to E-1 that early in the game

PEdit: LLD because she was actually pushing there rather than just mindlessly jumping on
Mastina because I don't want to blame Mastina

Everyone else could really have just not voted there and it would have been at least as good for the purposes of me placing them and for them placing Dwlee

[That Idiot Ivan]

The point is that town will sometimes just decide to hammer, and sometimes people hammer without realising, and sometimes scum fake either of these sentiments

So since the second of these is clearly crossed off for Suripoko, which is it for them? #1 or #3? (ignoring that the hammer itself could really be called a pile of number two...)

Do you think scum-LLD is incapable of making a believable push on town? Why don't you want to blame mastina?

Do you think all four remaining votes were mindless?

At what point in the wagon should people stop voting and just declare where they would vote while not putting their money where their mouths are for you to optimally place everyone?

[SirCakez]

Ok but regardless of whose to blame that hammer still sucked

[jjh927]

I have no idea which it is

Scum!LLD is immensely capable of making a believable push on town. I'm under no illusions here- my blaming people for allowing the lim to happen has nothing to do with alignment. I just think people could have done better.
I just don't blame Mastina. Not a big reason; I just think she knew what she was doing and probably isn't that annoyed that the lim happened early, unlike you and SirCakez who are acting like the guy who hammered is a million times worse than people who piled on.

The other 4 votes are not necessarily mindless but they are surely votes under normative social influence if they are town

When a wagon is big, personally I ignore it and vote elsewhere with the intention of placing other slots. This will happen even if I started the wagon if I'm engaged enough and think we have enough time

[The Bombay]

Who did you suspect jjh927? Sircakez and who else?

[jjh927]

I don't really have a second scumread

[The Bombay]

Why not?

[jjh927]

Because I haven't figured out who else is scum yet

This is frequently what happens with day 2 if you don't elim the first scum I identify in day 1

[SirCakez]

unlike you and SirCakez who are acting like the guy who hammered is a million times worse than people who piled on.

[SirCakez]

Ugh supposed to go with that quote was:
You can't blame people on a wagon for not knowing that someone was going to quickhammer too early. That's ridiculous.

[jjh927]

I can and I will because you should have known that

Pretty sure both of you also voted without knowing how many votes were on Dwlee at the time

[That Idiot Ivan]

Incorrect. I counted from the last posted VC and determined that my vote was E-2. Believe me or don't, IDGAF.

And 'normative social influence,' really? Because social influence supposedly had nothing to do with mastina's vote. Right. Color me unimpressed with your entire mindset.

[SirCakez]

I knew they didn't have enough to go to L-1 from my vote and they didn't
You're grasping at straws

[Suripoko]

Dwlee99 (5): Lady Lambdadelta, T3, mastina, SirCakez, Shiro

@pooky can I get your read on me. It sounded like you wanted to hammer me

You can't blame people on a wagon for not knowing that someone was going to quickhammer too early. That's ridiculous.

[T3]

Spoiler: r/anarchychess was

Welcome to Subreddit Mafia!

Chess but both of the kings are gay. Almost all the pieces are supportive

You are r/anarchychess

Your Abilities are:

• Your voice and your vote
  
• Each game day you will face an unknown adversary in a chess game. The side who goes first on Day 1 will be decided by a random roll. Thereafter, the chess player who goes first will alternate each day.
  
• Each game day, the White side will have 24 hours in which to make their first move. The Black side has 24 hours in which to make their response. The player who takes the least amount of time to make their move gains one point. This will continue for 5 turns. At the end of 5 turns, if one player has lost fewer pieces than the other, that player wins the day's tournament. If they have lost the same number of pieces, then the player who earned the most points is the winner. If you are the winner, you will be able to use your night ability that night.
  
• If the game day ends before the match has reached 5 moves each, and the white player has made one more move than the black player, the game day will go into a twilight period until the Black player makes their final move.
  
• If the game day ends before the match has reached 5 moves each, and both chess players have made the same number of moves, the day will end normally and the winner will be declared based on number chess pieces remaining on the board OR via tiebreaker based on how many points each chess player has accumulated.
  
• Your night action is Strong-willed Cop. Your investigation cannot be redirected or blocked.

Your Win Condition is:
You win when all threats to

Town

have been eliminated or nothing can prevent that from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment, and with the bolded line from the rules in the game thread.

OH COME ON
i also got a box

[T3]

jjh is town after a reread during the night.

[T3]

i thought dwlee was scum because he claimed to have the anarchychess subreddit but not having received it.