Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

[Pavowski]

Vote Count 1.01

Official Vote Count

Todoroki

(2): mc esther, Dunnstral

mc esther

(1): Dwlee99

Brighter Puppy

(1): Kuriyama

Dwlee99

(1): innocentvillager

Not Voting

(4): Save The Dragons, Todoroki, Prism, Brighter Puppy

With 9 employees, it takes 5 to fire.

[innocentvillager]

fwiw, i think regardless of whether it's optimal, scum probably believe the "hard to read in smaller group" theory, and that i probably ended up in that group on those grounds ("nobody knows me" is pretty similar to "hard to read" imo).

i also think firebringer wouldntve put me in the smaller group.

no if it was me i would picked myself, save the dragons and todoraki

y?

[Brighter Puppy]

fwiw, i think regardless of whether it's optimal, scum probably believe the "hard to read in smaller group" theory, and that i probably ended up in that group on those grounds ("nobody knows me" is pretty similar to "hard to read" imo).

i also think firebringer wouldntve put me in the smaller group.

no if it was me i would picked myself, save the dragons and todoraki

y?

1) each is harder for others to read
2) pretty confident i could pocket both of them.
3) i enjoy notsci and std enough that it would be enjoyable pt for me.

[Todoroki]

You’re right Dunn I clearly haven’t put a ton of thought into the setup other than selfish wish who I’m with so I’m probably town for not thinking of the optimal answer

Nice talk

Why answer like this instead of answering the question

In a situation with me and IV, having a known (albeit tricky to read) quantity puts me in a better position. At least was my initial thought, however as I said I haven’t really given the placement a ton of thought other than finding it curious I’m paired with IV in the first place.

[Todoroki]

Hey, I was in a previous running of this game.

There ended up being a lot of discussion on which hood to kill in first. After lots and lots of back and forth mech talk, it was decided that killing in the big hood first is better. Despite that, we killed scum in the small hood day one, and then proceeded to lose the game.

I don't remember all of the math on why it is better, but that was Bingle's final conclusion, and I trust Bingle's set up spec better then my own anyways.

Spoiler:

I know, I know. Bingle was scum that game.

But then he stood by it in the ghost chat, and he also said it in the original run of this set up, he had the same conclusion

So, would love to skip all of the mech back and forth and just all agree to kill in the big hood. Thanks!

[mc esther]

can you link to the game?

[Todoroki]

Yeah, give me a sec

[Brighter Puppy]

So, would love to skip all of the mech back and forth and just all agree to kill in the big hood. Thanks!

Alpha*

[Dunnstral]

I was in that game too

Copying my notes: eliminating 3-person hood mafia day 1 is bad because it means the next 2 kills are the town players in the 3 person hood

VOTE: Dwlee99

[Brighter Puppy]

Hey, I was in a previous running of this game.

There ended up being a lot of discussion on which hood to kill in first. After lots and lots of back and forth mech talk, it was decided that killing in the big hood first is better. Despite that, we killed scum in the small hood day one, and then proceeded to lose the game.

I don't remember all of the math on why it is better, but that was Bingle's final conclusion, and I trust Bingle's set up spec better then my own anyways.

Spoiler:

I know, I know. Bingle was scum that game.

But then he stood by it in the ghost chat, and he also said it in the original run of this set up, he had the same conclusion

So, would love to skip all of the mech back and forth and just all agree to kill in the big hood. Thanks!

did scum put more thought into beta group than other groups with the same line of thinking i had? (harder to read players in beta and rest go to alpha?)

[Todoroki]

can you link to the game?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=86547
^ second run of the game, me norwee and Dunn were all in it
Killed mafia day one, mafia win

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=86273
^ original run of the game norwee was in it (norwee must really like this set up lol)
Day 1 town win, killed mafia in big hood.

[Brighter Puppy]

norwee played this game 2 before and didn't even correct my wrong assumption on 2 player hoods...smh

[Brighter Puppy]

LOL NORWEE BEING THE ONE TOWN NOT VOTING OUT SCUM IN THE FIRST RUN AND WINS GMAE ANYWAYS.

im totally going to make fun of him in our hydra pt for this

[Todoroki]

did scum put more thought into beta group than other groups with the same line of thinking i had? (harder to read players in beta and rest go to alpha

Scum Bingle put himself, Norwee, and Not_Mafia in the small hood.

So, probably. Norwee and Notmafia are both miselimed pretty often.

But, then Bingle decided to basically get himself eliminated day 1. His strategy was too big brain for me.

[Dwlee99]

IV do you forget I've been an active member in two of your scum games?

[Kuriyama]

norwee played this game 2 before and didn't even correct my wrong assumption on 2 player hoods...smh

I actually have a very hard time believing Norwee didn't tell you anything about how to play this setup in your hydra chat.

[Brighter Puppy]

norwee played this game 2 before and didn't even correct my wrong assumption on 2 player hoods...smh

I actually have a very hard time believing Norwee didn't tell you anything about how to play this setup in your hydra chat.

yeah ur right. he told me everything, then i told him "okay i will go play dumb"

[Todoroki]

Tbh Luke told me about bingles post and I read it but clearly didn’t digest it so it might not be as concerning as you think

[Kuriyama]

yeah ur right. he told me everything, then i told him "okay i will go play dumb"

so what did you two talk about?

[Brighter Puppy]

yeah ur right. he told me everything, then i told him "okay i will go play dumb"

so what did you two talk about?

what r u the fbi?
U got to subpoenna our private conversations if u want the fully juicy discussions.
I can't give out our secret list of rankings of players by attractiveness

[Kuriyama]

what r u the fbi?
U got to subpoenna our private conversations if u want the fully juicy discussions.
I can't give out our secret list of rankings of players by attractiveness

How unpleasant.

[Brighter Puppy]

what r u the fbi?
U got to subpoenna our private conversations if u want the fully juicy discussions.
I can't give out our secret list of rankings of players by attractiveness

How unpleasant.

and proud of it

[Kuriyama]

I assume the two of you talked about something prior to game start?

It's weird that he didn't discuss his past experiences with this setup with you and you would enter the game seemingly completely confused about how hoods work and whether eliminating a scum in the large group wins the game.

[Todoroki]

Spoiler alert: I’m at the top

[Brighter Puppy]

ur under the false assumption i care about correcting ur read on me by engaging dialogue for u to get a better read.
I already sorted u.
This conversation doesn't benefit me to help u make a better read.
I could care less if ur wrong.

U continuing it will not get support from me in helping u along.
U either take what i say as me speaking truthfully or u don't.

I am not helping ur read on me when u continue saying u doubt what i say. Talk to my attorney. I don't need to read u anymore cause i sorted u in town.