Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

[Kuriyama]

Like I think a fairly reasonable thing for norwee to say to you if you were town is "I won the first running of this setup as town when we eliminated scum in large group d1 and we lost the second running of this setup as town when we eliminated scum in small group d1, so we should aim for large group to go for that d1 win"

Which makes your entry into today feel kind of weird and intentionally oblivious to me. So you're saying he didn't say that to you, and I'm asking you, what did he say to you?

I'm asking now because he's probably asleep right now.

[Brighter Puppy]

norwee never even told me he played this game before.
but hey u can talk to him if u want.

[Kuriyama]

Perhaps I expect too much of Norwee.

[Brighter Puppy]

i actually really despise being read either way for dumbtelling because ive faked dumbtelling as scum before to get townread.
This is why i said u should ignore it as a read.

I didn't know, and I have been dumb before as scum legitimately and people townread me for it also, so its like already said "don't read into me being a dumbass that much"

[Dunnstral]

i actually really despise being read either way for dumbtelling because ive faked dumbtelling as scum before to get townread.

That's what Kuriyama is saying

[Kuriyama]

I find it more concerning tbh that norwee didn't think to tell you about his past experiences as town in this setup.
One explanation would be that he finally rolled scum in this setup, hence he didn't think his past town experiences would really be applicable or useful.

[Brighter Puppy]

i actually really despise being read either way for dumbtelling because ive faked dumbtelling as scum before to get townread.

That's what Kuriyama is saying

Do u think i don't see kuriyama point of view.

[Kuriyama]

I'm not going to belabor this point much longer since I guess it is not out of the realm of possibility that I simply have too high of an expectation for norwee's behavior/play and I will re-adjust and wipe this clean.

[Dunnstral]

Just here to tank my slot so Fire will deal with the mess. :)

- Norwee

[Brighter Puppy]

fun fact norwee trolled me by saying we were scum and said we should put ourselves and innocentvillager in hood together and that we should then argue that scum just everyone to be paranoid on us. (this was before hoods announced)

[Kuriyama]

could you paraphrase this conversation?

[Todoroki]

I find it more concerning tbh that norwee didn't think to tell you about his past experiences as town in this setup.
One explanation would be that he finally rolled scum in this setup, hence he didn't think his past town experiences would really be applicable or useful.

I feel like Norwee would have been More likely to have explained the day 1 town win if they were scum. Because they would have had too sort the hoods. Instantly becomes a thing they have to consider.

[Brighter Puppy]

i asked him who does he think we will be paired with/who does he want to be paired with. he responds with okay we scum, who should we pair with (before i even saw role pm) then he suggest pairing with innocentvillager and dialogue about strategy to lim him and say scum want everyone paranoid us. then i ask him if we are really scum or is he memeing (we had a pre role pm discussion of what we would rather be and i said hydra is better as town than scum)

this was to extend of basically all our discussions of the game besides "WHEN IS THIS GAME STARTING. WHY ARE WE STILL IN NIGHT 0. WHEN WILL THIS START"

[Kuriyama]

I don't think Norwee would troll you about this but I'll take your word for it for now.

[Brighter Puppy]

norwee is a bully!

[mc esther]

a lot of the setup spec in the first game is pretty weird (not in that any of it's bad, just in that the two major arguments dont really engage with each other very much); but imo the key point is bingle's comment, "If we lim in the small pool we NEVER have conftown in 5p."

UNVOTE:
VOTE: save the dragons

also i think dunn's town

[Brighter Puppy]

also i think dunn's town

why
none of what dunn has done can't be faked easily from scumdunn

[Brighter Puppy]

in fact i would go as far as to say dunn is one im leaning most into as scum just cause i haven't heard much from prism and STD

[Brighter Puppy]

Pav can you post the neighbor groups since they're public info?

I'll be out hiking all day but will try to evaluate shit later

Don't know how other games played this but I expect it to be shoot in 3 down the line, 3 way at worst is fine and extra elims are a bonus.

only post by prism and i got nothing from it

[mc esther]

i liked the questions, i like that he got town strategy wrong despite having played before.

[Todoroki]

i liked the questions, i like that he got town strategy wrong despite having played before.

Can you explain this?

[Brighter Puppy]

i feel the opposite. in fact his questions are pretty bad
i don't think the answers lead to read-wise and town dunn would care about them
and his last response to me and kuriyama looked like scum seeing a tvt fight and trying to egg on kuriyama

[Todoroki]

i liked the questions, i like that he got town strategy wrong despite having played before.

Can you explain this?

Not the questions part. The strategy part.

[mc esther]

i think he wouldve thought a lot more about how to vote and recalled this discussion from last game were he scum.

[Brighter Puppy]

Group Alpha:
Dunnstral
Dwlee99
Save The Dragons
Brighter Puppy
Kuriyama
Prism

Group Beta:
Todoroki
innocentvillager
mc esther

idk think this grouping alone says mc esther is scum in group beta

Can you explain why you think mc esther would be the scum in the second group?

okay question

Why does everyone say I’m difficult to read

I also would have picked Dunn instead of someone random if I was scum tbh

Or fire

Someone cool but also *actually* hard to read

Why put hard to read players in the group of 3 instead of the group of 6?

terrible question