open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Kaiji]

alyssa can you sanity check my current push onto a midway/SS team here - I think I'm onto something with this pairing. 3rd atm I'm looking at cakez.

[skitter30]

Well that's the point i find to be most town-indicative, and i'm not even sure you went back and read the context

[Alyssa The Lamb]

alyssa can you sanity check my current push onto a midway/SS team here - I think I'm onto something with this pairing. 3rd atm I'm looking at cakez.

I don't have any opinion on them being scum together atm

[Kaiji]

Well that's the point i find to be most town-indicative, and i'm not even sure you went back and read the context

I did and I'm even less convinced than by your own word.

[Kaiji]

and why are you voting me for this

Because I felt like you were trying to threaten me with an inaccurate comparison.

I don't actually think it's scum indicative, it was mostly a protest vote.

I can see this as *nullifying* your meta point there, but to call this response towny? no.


also SS loves chatting it up with his scum buds and throwing around banter, I've seen it before.

[Kaiji]

alyssa can you sanity check my current push onto a midway/SS team here - I think I'm onto something with this pairing. 3rd atm I'm looking at cakez.

I don't have any opinion on them being scum together atm

who do you want flipped

[catboi]

This is probably kaiji's towngame

[Kaiji]

It's much more convincing to me that midway treated SS a certain way all game, and when midway was forced to claim under duress, he planted a vote onto SS. By no means was there an effort here to "leverage" a pr claim onto a "likely VT", and I frankly find SS's points about this to be bullshit.

I'm not budging between SS/Midway and I'm fine satiating people's want to not flip a doc claim - but I have no qualms about it myself due to the dayplay not matching up.

[skitter30]

and why are you voting me for this

Because I felt like you were trying to threaten me with an inaccurate comparison.

I don't actually think it's scum indicative, it was mostly a protest vote.

I can see this as *nullifying* your meta point there, but to call this response towny? no.


also SS loves chatting it up with his scum buds and throwing around banter, I've seen it before.

I dont think he pushes back or gets so annoyed as scum tbh

[skitter30]

This is probably kaiji's towngame

At the very least if the vig is scum he absolutely isnt

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Datisi

skitter30

Andante

Kaiji northsidegal

Something_Smart
SirCakez
catboi
Mare
Menalque PookyTheMagicalBear
midwaybear

Midwaybear gives the most info on the game itself if flipped
SirCakez is a slot I think will have to be flipped at some point, so is a safe option for future sanity reasons
catboi is the single slot most likely to be turned on for paranoia reasons, so is a safe option even though I don't think it's very productive atm
S_S mostly is just a slot I struggle to read, nowadays I'm a little more confident I will be able to read him correctly over time since I think the game won't be stagnant like it was early in the day forever, so I'm not really into it
Mare/Menalque are the lazy way out kills that will have to be sorted somehow eventually but it gives us borderline nothing to kill today

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I guess that's roughly my preferences in order

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I guess that's roughly my preferences in order

[Alyssa The Lamb]

how

[skitter30]

@kaiji can u give a tldr for midway/ss plz?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Mare/Menalque are the lazy way out kills that will have to be sorted somehow eventually but it gives us borderline nothing to kill today

just realized this looks weird

we get basically nothing from flipping either of them

[skitter30]

do we think a town vig would have claimed?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

depends on the player I think

[skitter30]

i think if the vig is town iv would make more sense as the vig-kill? i'm not sure what town-vig shoots faker
honestly i'm having a hard time seeing what town-vig shoots either

[skitter30]

midway why did you doc me last night?

[skitter30]

i think we should flip cakez today

[Kaiji]

i think we should flip cakez today

I've kept this to myself but i had a switch flip in my head where I think that in a cakez town world you are partners with midway and SS here especially based how you are trying your uptmost hardest to divert the wagon away. and which wagon would be most convenient to divert to if they flip town for a scum skitter?

Cakez.

It allows to reset the gamestate and shift focus elsewhere.

I'm not going to fight this late into the dayphase - but I wanted to out my observation here - I have my eye here.


I was very pinged by how you described your reasons for townreading SS because they were very ~poor~ indicators of SS being town, having experience myself catching scum SS.


Either I'm a genius here or not and the flips will show what the reality is.

I said I townread you -> you were a name on that list that I was trying to "pocket" in a way to make you feel comfortable. I'm pulling the rug out now. I am afraid of being nightkilled. I don't know what it is but I now don't feel that I want cakez flipped here today.



dear potential townies reading this in the future: if cakez DOES flip town and I'm nightkilled - absolutely hard follow my theory on scum team until it ends up being wrong. and remember -> dayplay>mech play always <3 luv u all please make good choices.

[Kaiji]

I also remembered that a specific point is that I don't like the push to label the vig as a scum vig -> I have a specific read on who the vig is and it is very much in line with a likely person able to have it and use it in the way they did as town.

No one nightkills IV on N1. That's not a solve heavy slot.

There's just a lot of icky things I feel from skitter slot and its subtle, which - kudos to their scumplay to not being overt - but I feel that when analyzing what I feel reality is - it crashes down around her.


I'm keeping my vote strictly between Midway/SS today.

[Kaiji]

Granted - there is a small possibility I am getting caught up in only the people who are actually posting and its the inactives, including cakez - but based on what happened between SS/Midway I am doubtful, and well, midway IS an inactive too.

[skitter30]

Why do i start the midway wagon again? I also object to the characterization that i am 'trying my upmost hardest to divert the wagon away', or that cakez is the easiest flip for me rn, or that i'm even particularly worried abt a midway wagon

I also think midway probably really is doctor (or at the least, he has several points in the game where he's indicating he's thinking abt the game from a doc-oriented pov, and i dont think scum takes doc in that bracket)
I also dont particularly feel pocketed
~
I want more on why you think cakez is town