open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[skitter30]

I also remembered that a specific point is that I don't like the push to label the vig as a scum vig -> I

have a specific read on who the vig is and it is very much in line with a likely person able to have it and use it in the way they did as town.

No one nightkills IV on N1. That's not a solve heavy slot.

There's just a

lot of icky things I feel from skitter slot and its subtle, whic

h - kudos to their scumplay to not being overt - but I feel that when analyzing what I feel reality is - it crashes down around her.


I'm keeping my vote strictly between Midway/SS today.

Bolded: disagree, and iv and faker were the two most townread slots in the game (and if you disagree, its cuz you werent here day1), and none of the potential vig slots shoot either as town i'm ~95% certain

Italics: if you have issues you'd like me to address, plz raise them, instead of being vaguely wishy-washy

[skitter30]

but based on what happened between SS/Midway

Plz elaborate on thiz too

[Something_Smart]

i dont think scum takes doc in that bracket

well no of course not, if midway is really doc then he's town.

[skitter30]

That's my point

[Kaiji]

Nah we're done interacting for this dayphase, I'm not filling up the thread with a back and forth where I'm fairly sure the other side is interacting in bad faith. Present info and we can talk - but thus far you've made claims without evidence.

I don't think cakez is town necessarily, I just think I have a good team read on my hands.

what I see from midway talking about doc is moreso a setup to claim doc - it's primarily d2 he makes the softs - and to explain why you are alive. There was suspicion starting to come towards midway and the IV flip implicated him slightly -> thus he has to set something up early.

I don't see a reason why he does it as town at the stages he does, its just performative.


The fact you're so aware of it is quite interesting.

I think your points are soft and uninspiring and unwilling to commit to more than a couple strong opinions at a time.


Prove me wrong, or step aside.

[Something_Smart]

can you quote the doc-oriented POV posts? obviously if he's scum RB he would still be trying to drop hints that he was doc.

[Kaiji]

I also remembered that a specific point is that I don't like the push to label the vig as a scum vig -> I

have a specific read on who the vig is and it is very much in line with a likely person able to have it and use it in the way they did as town.

No one nightkills IV on N1. That's not a solve heavy slot.

There's just a

lot of icky things I feel from skitter slot and its subtle, whic

h - kudos to their scumplay to not being overt - but I feel that when analyzing what I feel reality is - it crashes down around her.


I'm keeping my vote strictly between Midway/SS today.

Bolded: disagree, and iv and faker were the two most townread slots in the game (and if you disagree, its cuz you werent here day1), and none of the potential vig slots shoot either as town i'm ~95% certain

Italics: if you have issues you'd like me to address, plz raise them, instead of being vaguely wishy-washy

ok well since you want to try to pretend around it


andante is first draft pick

andante has a hard on for an IV scum read


andante hero shoots IV and then daystart here talks about the IV shot and sheeping IV.



its painfully obvious - and I'm not letting this narrative be set in stone and allow andante to be wagoned in the future.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

andante claimed tracker

[skitter30]

andante claimed tracker already, and you're painfully obviously town if the vig is scum

[Kaiji]

then they fakeclaimed ROFL

[Something_Smart]

Andante also arguably gave away that scum shot IV. She seemed inordinately confident about it, and it was one of the reasons I was pressuring her early.

[skitter30]

Nah we're done interacting for this dayphase, I'm not filling up the thread with a back and forth where I'm fairly sure the other side is interacting in bad faith. Present info and we can talk - but thus far you've made claims without evidence.

I don't think cakez is town necessarily, I just think I have a good team read on my hands.

what I see from midway talking about doc is moreso a setup to claim doc - it's primarily d2 he makes the softs - and to explain why you are alive. There was suspicion starting to come towards midway and the IV flip implicated him slightly -> thus he has to set something up early.

I don't see a reason why he does it as town at the stages he does, its just performative.


The fact you're so aware of it is quite interesting.

I think your points are soft and uninspiring and unwilling to commit to more than a couple strong opinions at a time.


Prove me wrong, or step aside.

ok just pointing out that from my pov you're making a lot of claims that you're declining to substantiate, and i don't really see where you're getting midway/ss from, and i would like to hear more abt it, and i strongly object to the characterization that i'm acting in bad faith here

(and from my pov midway/ss is a claim without evidence because you keep pushing it and as far as i can tell it's basically based on nothing)

(and also *why* do i start an end of day wagon on my partner and make him claim again)

(also no offense i don't think you're dying here, you'll have quite a lot of time to push this tomorrow i'm sure)

[skitter30]

then they fakeclaimed ROFL

it's not her

[skitter30]

VOTE: catboi
This guy is scum and I bet that's why Faker was killed

ss what do you think abt this one?

[Kaiji]

hold up since when does cakez ever look at NKA lol

[Kaiji]

i have questions and theyre all for people who refuse to post

[skitter30]

Ugh
Why do y’all think none of the higher ordered numbers died?
VOTE: Datisi
Didn’t like your end of day. Felt generally lazy. Even though you said you didn’t want to do much, I still scum read it.
Also, I lightly townread the flow Alyssa slot from the early interaction with andante.

Ye, I townread Andante and sort of townread skitter. Based off of Sleepless (rip) claim, we know that there is either doctor or roleblocker in this game. I'm pretty sure skitter and Andante were also pretty townread yesterday, so it would make sense for scum to try to kill them. But, if my reads on them are right (hopefully), scum didn't kill them because they fear that doc might be on them. This explains why skitter and Andante are alive I think and I will probably townread whoever claims doctor (maybe not locktown but pretty sure there is doc).
Note: This sort of hinges on everything above being true which idk how likely that is. But I want to take that risk.

Also, I do think scum would aim higher, so there's at least one scum in Datisi/Mena imo (probably just one; but double is tinfoil).

I think IV and Faker were killed because they were pretty consensus townreads. I think scum avoided the top slots partially because there is a doctor in this game and also because at least one of those slots is scum.

@ss these ones, fwiw the fact that i'm only seeing it day2 is a little ? but he does seem to have been thinking abt the nk/doc's (and i wanna know why he picked me)

~
tbf this one also jsut caught my eye which is kinda bizarre since we didn't know there was a vig yet

yes ik i have not been doing much this eod but i jsut don't have a confident read on either of these two players
@Datisi

sorry for unclear but i was thinking atm that flow should get vigged

, but a replacement would probably be better

[Something_Smart]

ss what do you think abt this one?

That post seems mildly +town for Cakez, I guess.

[skitter30]

why, and how is it different than andante 'slipping' she knew scum killed iv?

[skitter30]

if faker didn't walk into a pgo i'm p sure it's a scum vig and there's only a handful of slots it can be
i don't think any of those slots as town kill either iv/faker, it doesn't match any of their reads

[Kaiji]

i'm having a brainwave and it involves a different scumteam universe

[skitter30]

if cakez is scum i can see midway as a partner fwiw

[Kaiji]

andante -> chose scum vig


but claimed tracker as their scum partner chose jailkeeper as a roleblocker.


thoughts?

[Something_Smart]

Those midway quotes seem pretty heavy-handed to me, especially the third one... it doesn't seem like it would be out of his scumrange to be playing up this "there's a doctor" bit, especially if he also has a partner high up.

(Like Andante)

[skitter30]

andante's town

and in retrospect i do agree that it's p heavy-handed. i'm thinking midway/cakez rn