Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

[Prism]

This is like the dollar store version of Warehouse 13

I'm still going to sit on esther for now until I can reread but F

[Todoroki]

Luke: I said that looking at the playerlist, I would put myself into the large hood unless my partner was exactly Dunn or Prism.

Why Dunnstral?

I was thinking nobody would ever put Dunnstral in as large hood scum because he's so limbaity and not even playing?..

When I have actually encountered scum!Dunn, I was super impressed. Like he walked out of day 1 near universally town read, and was my number 1 town read.

I think that Dunn gets scum read a lot as town, but when he is actually scum its not the case. That is basically the same reason I agreed with you that him ghosting this game makes me lean town on him.

[Todoroki]

Puppy why should I vote Dunn

It feels weird to me that you have a town-read on IV but you aren't trying to push for Esther elim - she is at E-2 currently.

1) I still think shooting in the large hood is better

2) Notty is leaning town on IV, but I am less convinced.

-Luke, even though you were originally questioning a Notty post.

[Kuriyama]

ok who do you want to kill in the large hood?

[Todoroki]

>.<

I am not used to not just blurting all of my own thoughts out into the thread, but Notty specifically said he wanted to wait until he got a chance to look at a couple isos again.

Hydra'ing is new to me - I don't want to step on his toes.

[Save The Dragons]

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[Todoroki]

STD, you have actually been my scum partner before. What could possibly make you think that this is my scum game?

[Save The Dragons]

i don't remember what you were like as scum lol

[Todoroki]

[Save The Dragons]

i mean when you play with 100 people on the site you can't keep track of all of them sorry

i dont really care that much for meta anyway. i remember you bussed me pretty hard which helped us win but i'm not sure that applies here. i think you gave thoughts more freely but i wonder if there's pressure from being scum in a hydra that's making you not say what you want

[Prism]

...Can you be more specific as to why this isn't your scumgame?

I am assuming this is Lukewarm, I thought a few other posts were notscience welp

[Todoroki]

from being

scum

in a hydra

I have zero completed games in a hydra.

I think that being in this hydra is also limiting to what I put in the thread, because like in my catch up, I was pointing out posts in our hydra chat vs dropping them directly into the main thread.

[Prism]

I'm kind of halfassing while killing time, will chew on 345 but I don't really see why you would be a lock for large group. You got better in Guardians but your confidence is definitely not there to single carry yet.

[Prism]

Glancing against at the group of 6, what the fuck?

You might not be familiar with all of the players there but why are they already excluded from going in 6?

[Todoroki]

...Can you be more specific as to why this isn't your scumgame?

I am assuming this is Lukewarm, I thought a few other posts were notscience welp

Notty and I have both made posts today.

As for my scum game, I guess I feel like I would just have already done more as scum? Like, I have been 1000% super try hard in every scum game I have played, and actively aimed to be the number one poster in all of those games (don't normally win, some people can reach unbelievable posting levels, but I general get pretty up there)

And I just haven't been here this game.

And like, yeah I was sick, but pretty sure that as scum I would not have been able to stay away - and I would also be pushing Notty to post more.

Which, this is not like a super identifier, because I mostly try hard as town too, but I always try extra hard as scum.

[Prism]

Going back to 345 itself instead of the quoted section here at the top I should stop halfassing but uhhhh yeah

I can yeet either slot with Extreme Prejudice so far

[Todoroki]

I'm kind of halfassing while killing time, will chew on 345 but I don't really see why you would be a lock for large group. You got better in Guardians but your confidence is definitely not there to single carry yet.

My thinking was that who ever went into the large pool should be the person most likely to dodge a day 1 elimination. I think that me and notty would be pretty good at that. The only people that I thought I would just trust to be better then this dynamic duo would be you or Dunn.

You are also not thinking about this game the same way I am, if you expect the scum in the large pool would be a single carry?

Based on my own experience with this set up, and reading the game before that, I still think that we should be killing in the large pool first.

So, even if you and other people who disagree with me push for it to go the other way, that is how I was thinking about the game when I answered that question.

[Prism]

Again I do not find the first paragraph persuasive at all given Guardians. You played your heart out and did well but still fell to more experienced players, and it is not just Pooky you are afraid of.

VOTE: Todoroki

I really do not like what Esther has given either, I don't know if she is just annoyed because I've never pushed her before or what, but I feel confident that 391 is a borderline scumclaim.

[Prism]

We are definitely not taking the game in the same way but even with the description you're giving this seems completely unsalvageable.

Will still revisit later but yeah.

[Prism]

You're worried about me at a minimum and are probably worried about Kuriyama and Dunnstral.

notscience also definitely has reason to be afraid of the people in 6.

You're not putting yourself in the 6 as scum if you're worried about Day 1 autoloss.

[Brighter Puppy]

But, but.
Limming scum in big hood first… Wasn’t that mechanically best…

- Norwee

[Prism]

It is a point of contention but I have been very adamantly in favor of shooting in the small group.

I think ~4% EV is significant and do not buy the qualitative arguments in favor of the large.

[Todoroki]

What are you talking about? That decision would have nothing to do with who I would be worried about being a good scum hunter in that scenario. I was comparing potential partners.

If I was partnered with, say STD, yeah. I would think that he was more likely to get eliminated then me day 1. Put myself into 6, std into 3. Same with Norwee. Same with Dwlee. I have seen each of them get scum read super early.

But if partnered with you or dunn, I would have handed off the 6 p to one of you.

(Never encountered IV, Kuriyama, or MC before, so I guess each of them would be more of a conversation in the Night 0).

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You are talking past what I am actually saying.

If I was partnered with (fill in the blank from above), I would place myself in the 6 p hood. ---- And then I would be constantly panicking in the scum chat that I was sure that X was going to figure me out.

But that does not stop me from spotting that I have seen them get scum read day 1, and so far I have been fairly town read early on in my scum games.

[Todoroki]

And that is nothing bad about the people I mentioned. In my game with STD, he was really scum read day 1, but we managed to wiggle out of his elimination day 1, and then he won in end game (as he mentioned, I bussed him hard on my way out).

But that would affect my thoughts on the hood sort.

[Prism]

...And both you and notscience have been scumread early. It is also hard for

both

of you to dodge. This is handwaiving the others and expressing confidence in both of your scumgames that I frankly do not think you have, and this is

just taking your word for it

on Day 1 autoloss and not assuming you planned for 3 or for both.

It is not lost on me that half of the Group of 6 I struggle to read, even if I doubt it was done for that purpose.