Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

[MathBlade]

Based off tone and relaxed posts (also votes within the game), I feel it's Harley, Voyc and Dwlee (could replace Dwlee with MegaZoom, but I feel more toward Dwlee). Galron went v/la as scum last game, so I'm kind of suspicious of that as well (I know, it's an insult, but I'm being honest). Only person to vote Harley was marcistar, who

replaced out and then

died. Harley's the only one to votepark Dwlee. Only person to vote Voyc was Andante, who replaced out and then died, despite Dwlee and Harley saying they want Voyc out. Kinda skimming, so let me know what I've missed or am missing.

Can confirm Galron also went V/LA in a game I was scum with them in but it was for valid reasons. Not sure how that matters as I don’t see Galron in the active player list or replacement list?

[Dwlee99]

MathBlade did you rep into a scum slot

[Dwlee99]

Actually your scumread on me is so ridiculous you're probably town, carry on

[Dwlee99]

Although why does town firebringer fake ic revealing...?

[MathBlade]

Although why does town firebringer fake ic revealing...?

It’s Firebringer.
He never met a troll post he didn’t try. Probably just didn’t read or forget about the OP.

[MathBlade]

Actually your scumread on me is so ridiculous you're probably town, carry on

Why is my scumread of you ridiculous?
You’re very competent as town and not dead.

[Dwlee99]

I'm on an incompetent streak and spent the whole game tunneled on the jester. That's why I'm not dead

[MathBlade]

I'm on an incompetent streak and spent the whole game tunneled on the jester. That's why I'm not dead

I don’t think so and it’s why I think you’re scum.
What do you agree with what I have pointed out so far? What do you disagree with (besides the conclusion you’re scum)?
Who would you fake vote for?

[MegAzumarill]

Math is giving off weird vibes and I honestly don't know what to make of it

[MathBlade]

Math is giving off weird vibes and I honestly don't know what to make of it

What weird vibes? Elaborate please?

[MegAzumarill]

Maybe not the right term

Weird reads would be better

[MegAzumarill]

Gun to my head initial impression is Dwlee Quinn Meg probably has at least one scum.
Dwlee because not dead yet
Quinn because they like Dwlee’s posts but based on what’s on this page didn’t consider why Dwlee isn’t dead
Meg because tbeir tone doesn’t match the last game I was with them on

If we could fake vote to determine who should vote that would be great.

Is there a reason you are saying these slots are linked or is your scumreads independent

[MathBlade]

Maybe not the right term

Weird reads would be better

What’s weird about them?

And considering the previous pattern of not weird elims hitting town or jester all game, weird seems pretty good to me.

[MathBlade]

Gun to my head initial impression is Dwlee Quinn Meg probably has at least one scum.
Dwlee because not dead yet
Quinn because they like Dwlee’s posts but based on what’s on this page didn’t consider why Dwlee isn’t dead
Meg because tbeir tone doesn’t match the last game I was with them on

If we could fake vote to determine who should vote that would be great.

Is there a reason you are saying these slots are linked or is your scumreads independent

Both? It’s more just spitballing what game to mind. I don’t have a team formulation yet

Eg NumbersQ and Dwlee should be screaming the other is scum but aren’t. Means one or more is probably scum.

[MathBlade]

How that all comes together not sure

[MegAzumarill]

Why do you read voyc as lhf over scum?

[MathBlade]

Why do you read voyc as lhf over scum?

Too many scumreads in the brief skim I had.
Either scum intentionally plan to bus and there’d be a lot more caution
Or scum don’t meaning that at least one scum scumreads them.

[Dwlee99]

Eg NumbersQ and Dwlee should be screaming the other is scum but aren’t. Means one or more is probably scum.

Why should I be doing this?

[Dwlee99]

I don’t think so and it’s why I think you’re scum.

You don't think so? You disagree with the easily verifiable fact I 1.) Have lost town games recently by sucking and 2.) That I tunneled the jester?

What do you agree with what I have pointed out so far? What do you disagree with (besides the conclusion you’re scum)?
Who would you fake vote for?

I forget what you said. I think looker is town cause it's Alyssa's slot. I'm looking for two more town. I think at some point I looked at different teams and thought voyc would make sense in a lot. I'd fake vote voyc

[Dwlee99]

Here's a real "readlist"

do your own work gl!

Milk & Mocha (0): Jester
Alyssa The Lamb (0): Probly Town
Three (0): Town
Voyc (0): Mafia
Enchant (0): Very Town
Firebringer (0): ??? I'm confused about this person but if I missed someone it's my buddy FB
numberQ (0): Town?
Dwlee99 (0): Town
Harley Quinn (0): Mafia
MegAzumarill (0): Probably Mafia? I dunno really

Tempted to sheep Pooky on other two but really we just need one to get to tomorrow

[numberQ]

Math's read on me sucks. What kind of argument is "go ctrl-f 'know' in this ISO"? The phrase "I don't know" can pretty commonly mean something besides "I literally don't know this", and if you actually look at the majority of 'know' posts in that ISO, you'll see I'm using it more often than not to mean something more like "I don't think this is the case". As far as meta tells go, this is bad.

Now in this game, yes, I literally don't know. Maybe that'll change if I look back at the game but also maybe I'll just try to stay in the current conversation. The game's been slightly more active than it has any other day, weirdly enough.

Anyway I have some pairs in my head that I think are probably not the same alignment, though I'm not sure in which direction. I also don't know how

useful

that is in ELo since we don't have a ton of luxury to test out those pairs, but I'll collect my thoughts and post them either way.

[numberQ]

Actually fuck the T/S thing. I looked back and I don't think those thoughts I mentioned in my last post are going to coalesce into anything. Plus I woke up way too early this morning for a meeting with people in a time zone 6 hours ahead of mine so maybe I just need to simmer on it for a bit more. Probably gonna take a nap after work then try and settle into my review of the game tonight.

GOSH MISELIM IS STRESSING
i dont want to make the wrong choice

tbh i dont have time tonight to dedicate to this and giving out a readslist, will hopefully be able to tomorrow

I don't think your theory holds up really well Meg, I couldn't even check in during that phase, it was so short

Maybe this is just how she talks but the emotion at the start of this post feels manufactured to me. I glanced through Voyc's ISO she does seem to be pressing people and following up in a towny sort of way, but just something about this post is weird to me. Plus I looked through her predecessor's ISO too and datsi strikes me as much scummier.

Anyway that's about all the brain I can muster right now.

[MegAzumarill]

Voyc I gave a pass (mentally at least) because although they were low content it was obvious they were doing something.
At this point I don't think that thing is solving the game, or even figuring out alignments in general.

[MathBlade]

Vote Count 3.02

With 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Milk & Mocha (6): Dwlee99, Firebringer, numberQ, Three, Enchant, Milk & Mocha,
Alyssa The Lamb (0):
Three (0):
Voyc (0):
Enchant (0):
Firebringer (0):
numberQ (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(4): Voyc, MegAzumarill, Alyssa The Lamb, Harley Quinn,

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-01-17 14:55:06)

Harley Quinn is on V/LA

So Dwlee, myself (town), numberQ, three (town), Enchant (town) , M&M Jester

So Dwlee and NumberQ look sus as hell.

@Dwlee I already explained why. It’s because of the jester wagon.

[MathBlade]

I don’t think so and it’s why I think you’re scum.

You don't think so? You disagree with the easily verifiable fact I 1.) Have lost town games recently by sucking and 2.) That I tunneled the jester?

What do you agree with what I have pointed out so far? What do you disagree with (besides the conclusion you’re scum)?
Who would you fake vote for?

I forget what you said. I think looker is town cause it's Alyssa's slot. I'm looking for two more town. I think at some point I looked at different teams and thought voyc would make sense in a lot. I'd fake vote voyc

I don’t doubt the fact you have recently lost games. Everyone has occasional slumps. I just think you’re better than what’s here and you’re good scum. I don’t think you’re making an honest effort to see my point.