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[Rogue]

I mean that’s cool and all I’m just walking you through my trajectory from yesterday, but go off?

[That Idiot Ivan]

Go off where? I'm stating that I never claimed to be unlimited. Your trajectory yesterday was mostly 'PT spy-like role scary!'

This:

Ivan makes sense to me as a PT spy. Especially given my read on you guys and your claim plus info we know, it just doesn’t seem likely that there’s a parity cop, who also creates a neighborhood with multiple other people to become masons?

and this:

If 1024 is some shit about how he’s solving in the hood I swear to god I’m nuking that shit from existence.

I’m not playing this “so and so is so town in the hood” game.

Are the last things you had to say about me.

But noted. Where are your other reads right now?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Understood.

By the way, this day doesn't end until I say so, understood? I have things I need to work out in private... but all will be revealed soon enough.

Cakez, you're up next with a full claim.

[SirCakez]

I am r/AccidentalRenaissance
as of right now I am a VT but my role says that I can unlock new parts of my role somehow?? and that I will be told when I do? but it doesn't say how to do that
so I need y'alls help lol

[SirCakez]

rogue's claim doesn't really change much I don't think??

[The Bombay]

but all will be revealed soon enough

Ugh.

I feel like I should just come back to this game whenever this happens.

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I do still want clarification from StrangeMatter regarding my earlier question though.

[The Bombay]

7. This game may have a [Talk with the Dead and/or Spectators] mechanic. DO NOT talk about this game anywhere else, or with anyone else outside of this game thread and any private topics we may make accessible to you during the game.

@Cakez, so far no one has claimed or flipped with anything related to this. So maybe you have to die.

[SirCakez]

NO I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT WORKS

[SirCakez]

I don't think anyone else's role interacts with mine
rather I think I need to do something on my end to make it work
BUT WHAT??

[That Idiot Ivan]

What are your reads overall, Cakez? Or game thoughts?

(I know we're waiting for T3's claim, but I'd like to use this time while we sit around)

[SirCakez]

well obviously seems pretty likely Rogue is scum
I'd like to say it's just easy and T3 is the third scum but mafia is rarely that easy
if not T3 then I think it has to be Bombay for the third scum? assuming the LLD-Shiro-you block is all actually town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And yes, T3 Claim next with Night actions as well

[SirCakez]

strangematter would be town for guilty-ing Rogue scum
mastina was the counter to Suri-scum

[That Idiot Ivan]

You don't think you were the counter to Suripoko-scum? And why do you think I'm town?

[SirCakez]

You don't think you were the counter to Suripoko-scum? And why do you think I'm town?

There can be two counters no?
I don't think this game makes any sense if you're scum

[Rogue]

Once the day ends, my role targets two players to neighborize in one neighborhood. They get immediate access to post. I'm informed of who's been chosen, and then I decide if I want to use any of my powers. Yes, powers, plural. All are one-shot. Once I submit an action or declare I'm taking no action, I gain viewing access to the PT. I can post from then on if I choose, but if I've chosen to take an action, that action is blocked if I post before night ends/mods clear me. Neighborhood dissolves when the following day phase ends and the process repeats.

Key info there is that my parity cop is one-shot and I have no control over who gets targeted for my neighborhoods. Given info is stronger early game and both targeted players were on a town wagon flip, I opted to use the parity cop shot N1. Hence not being concerned about being blocked in the future. That isn't my only one-shot power, but it's definitely my best one.

[Rogue]

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY

MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS

OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)

OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL

[Rogue]

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY

MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS

OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)

OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL

[Rogue]

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY

MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS

OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)

OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL

[Rogue]

Well work internet knows all the value of my anger

[T3]

We’re arcane.

We had a choice pregame of Piltover or Zaun. Piltover made us an inventor with an activatable commute and PGO.

But fuck Piltover.

We are a doctor who delays death a la the bleed out mechanic. Aka, the “alternative kill” that Shiro can stop. My guess is scum have a strongman and our combo can beat out the strongman to guarantee results. This is part of why I was so skeptical of Ivan once all the claims were out there, because with me around it already felt busted as fuck.

I didn’t mind the watcher claim as o it role seems like a decent workaround to the busted combination.

So yeah.

We targeted Bombay N1, because they seemed solidly Town. I was basically in the same boat as they were re protective decisions N1, after day one I kinda had squick feels about LLD.

Last night I tried to protect LLD.

oHhHhH

[StrangeMatter]

I'm a jail keeper with a hammer ability special where I block indirect kills if I hammer scum.

@StrangeMatter

What does it mean that you block indirect kills? Why are you so invested in activating this ability when we have yet to have more then one kill in a night?

Indirect kills is I get to stop poisons, arsons, and anything that doesn't immediately kill from what I asked the mod about this part.

[The Bombay]

then I think it has to be Bombay for the third scum?

Do it, clown.

[The Bombay]

Yeah we're clowning I think.

[mastina]

So Shiro made mastina loyal, and mastina targeted LLD with a message?

Yup!

How did Mastina know that she was being made loyal by Shiro in order to include it in her message to LLD during the night?

Uh I can share this but I'm not sure if it's public or not and if it's not I would need permission to do so. But, suffice to say: I had a way to know Shiro was making me loyal.

By the way, this day doesn't end until I say so, understood? I have things I need to work out in private... but all will be revealed soon enough.

(This would be why I am not voting--I haven't done my full solve work yet, I did some preliminary work last night but I kinda am figuring that you have done more work there than I have and am waiting for you to give your thoughts and then I can give my thoughts on that to build off of it more or less.)

oHhHhH

That said it's looking pretty damn likely that T3's scum, stalling here.

There's a high chance Bombay is town; there's a high chance StrangeMatter is town; LLD is conftown; Shiro is conftown; I am conftown; that leaves 2/4 of {SirCakez, T3, That Idiot Ivan, Rogue} as scum.

T3's looking pretty damn likely.

SirCakez imo has a fairly high chance of being scum.

Ivan has high scum equity with SirCakez but less otherwise imo.

Rogue might not be confscum but shouldn't be allowed to live to mylo/lylo. With 2/9 as scum, that means that in the worst case scenario of a town elimination and a town nightkill going through, we need to kill them either today or tomorrow imo.

I realize that we theoretically in the best case scenario have enough mislims to go through all four but sadly the game's not autowin (for ~reasons~). So I'm treating things as if we only have three, which means that we need to determine the least-scum of the four candidates imo and then of the three remaining, what the best order of elimination would be. (Rogue would need to be either first or second thanks to the result probably.)