CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[Andante]

VOTE: malakittens

[Malakittens]

Andate

I am not scum reading you.

So get your flipping vote off me and stop the ate. The ate is what is starting to get to me because the last game yoh and I played a bit of pressure and yoh wwnfed to give up and replace out and you were scum

[Malakittens]

You know the game where I had zero content and was a watcher…..?

[Andante]

uh people were referencing ongoing games/whatnot, and I wasn't dealing with that. not my fault people wanted to go there, thus I was out

[Andante]

I don't think I read much of that game tbh

[Malakittens]

The mini normal? We were definitely not referencing any ongoing games.

[Andante]

I mean, I don't wanna discuss it. Are we flipping ircher? is that the plan? I'm kinda just done with this right now

[Rogue]

OH SO now we are gonna shut the conv down

i mean you are all wanting to scum read me, but the minute I want to talk about it with you you dont want to bother

ok right

i'll just go fuck myself then

[Malakittens]

OH SO now we are gonna shut the conv down

i mean you are all wanting to scum read me, but the minute I want to talk about it with you you dont want to bother

ok right

i'll just go fuck myself then

[Malakittens]

oh ok you are right there was an ongoing game referenced, but still it's sketchy

[Roden]

In other news, Roden just dropped several percentage points with how he's spinning things here.

Except he’s referring to me who said it first and you didn’t bat an eye

That's not true. I just didn't comment; not everything is worth it at the time. Also, the specifics matter here. You called me out for my initial reaction. Roden is calling me out for providing the standard answer to a question that has a standard answer on this site. That's very different; the former is a good faith engagement even if I disagree. The latter is just incredibly bad faith. You both agree the claim is fake; that's fine, sure; however, the way you reach that conclusion matters, and the way Roden is reaching that conclusion is really iffy compared to yours.

In other news, Roden just dropped several percentage points with how he's spinning things here.

Except he’s referring to me who said it first and you didn’t bat an eye

I was hoping someone would notice this first. Ircher has been ignoring most people who try to case him, only ever replying to people he thinks are easy to out-argue.

[Roden]

In other news, Roden just dropped several percentage points with how he's spinning things here.

Except he’s referring to me who said it first and you didn’t bat an eye

That's not true. I just didn't comment; not everything is worth it at the time. Also, the specifics matter here. You called me out for my initial reaction. Roden is calling me out for providing the standard answer to a question that has a standard answer on this site. That's very different; the former is a good faith engagement even if I disagree. The latter is just incredibly bad faith. You both agree the claim is fake; that's fine, sure; however, the way you reach that conclusion matters, and the way Roden is reaching that conclusion is really iffy compared to yours.

In other news, Roden just dropped several percentage points with how he's spinning things here.

Except he’s referring to me who said it first and you didn’t bat an eye

Not sure why both of those got quoted.

[Malakittens]

I'm just a jerk and know I definetly brought up the point of his wall list looked fabricatedish and could make sense to try to look town! to delay the lim

[Malakittens]

Then there’s also the post of that read list. I felt it was townie, but it also could be potentially be scum!ircher trying to survive another day and it was already made & ready to go.

So :torn:

[Ircher]

Why would I as town engage in an argument that I'm likely to lose? That's just silly. As both alignments, I am best off choosing my battles wisely.

[Cephrir]

I am not scum reading you.

So get your flipping vote off me

?

[Cephrir]

In other news, Roden just dropped several percentage points with how he's spinning things here.

Except he’s referring to me who said it first and you didn’t bat an eye

That's not true. I just didn't comment; not everything is worth it at the time. Also, the specifics matter here. You called me out for my initial reaction. Roden is calling me out for providing the standard answer to a question that has a standard answer on this site. That's very different; the former is a good faith engagement even if I disagree. The latter is just incredibly bad faith. You both agree the claim is fake; that's fine, sure; however, the way you reach that conclusion matters, and the way Roden is reaching that conclusion is really iffy compared to yours.

In other news, Roden just dropped several percentage points with how he's spinning things here.

Except he’s referring to me who said it first and you didn’t bat an eye

I was hoping someone would notice this first. Ircher has been ignoring most people who try to case him, only ever replying to people he thinks are easy to out-argue.

Why is roden again the only person making sense.

[Cephrir]

Why would I as town engage in an argument that I'm likely to lose? That's just silly. As both alignments, I am best off choosing my battles wisely.

:/

[Ircher]

Also the reads list comment is like the least important part pf Roden's post. It baffles me that's the hill him and Mala want to focus on here.

[Ircher]

Why is roden again the only person making sense.

Well, he certainly isn't in the post you quoted!

[Ircher]

Not all qualms have to be pursued. Some can be just noted mentally as a "I scum read this, but it's not important enough to derail the thread over" and moved past. The only reason I addressed Roden's post was because he made multiple bad faith and poorly constructed arguments.

[Roden]

Anyway the real reason Ircher is scum here is because there is a 100% chance we have a Voyeur and/or a Watcher and there's no way they don't sit on Ircher N1 to catch a Roleblocker. But no one's stepping forward to vouch for Ircher besides I guess Andante, who just claimed VT.

[Ircher]

Why are yoo assuming we have a voyeur or watcher? What are your premises that lead to that conclusion?

[Ircher]

If anything, the flip of a tracker decreases the chance since role variety is generally important for balancing reasons.

[Malakittens]

I am not scum reading you.

So get your flipping vote off me

?

because i really don't feel like engaging in a 1:1 with a person who I think is prob town, but I'm trying to stop her from trying to deathtunnel me before she dies