Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

MegAzumarill · Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:15 am

Dismissing Voyc as having to be town because they have no townreads (besides you) is bad logic

MathBlade · Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:23 am

In post 3099, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 3094, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3092, Dwlee99 wrote:Have you heard of bussing
Yes I have but with players inactive there’s 0 reason to.

Are you saying you think there's no chance that scum could be bussing their buddy that literally isn't here.
Scum need 1 mislim and they don't particularly care when.
Any move that obfuscates their alignment is viable

Correct. There’s no reason to.
They just let time lapse.
Very unlikely Voyc is a bus.

MathBlade · Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:26 am

In post 3097, Dwlee99 wrote:How is it troll and not just straight up gamethrowing as town to fake reveal IC and try to shove a lim through before you're confirmed not confirmed?

I don’t believe in disparaging a player who is not here but if you believe FB game threw that’s for you and the mods to talk out. I happen to know FB and know I am town and the fact you’re trying to pick at minutia rather than argue I am scum is almost a scum claim.

The most reasonable responses are troll and trying to take a bullet.
If FB was scum there the real IC just goes “nuh uh” and FB dies.

I doubt any scum does that ever.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:54 am

In post 3098, MegAzumarill wrote:Wouldn't the person who did that be scum then though?
Don't understand what you're saying

Yea, I'm saying that move is proscum and look at what FB tried to do. He faked IC and then tried to get people to rush onto voting HQ.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:55 am

In post 3102, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3097, Dwlee99 wrote:How is it troll and not just straight up gamethrowing as town to fake reveal IC and try to shove a lim through before you're confirmed not confirmed?
I don’t believe in disparaging a player who is not here but if you believe FB game threw that’s for you and the mods to talk out. I happen to know FB and know I am town and the fact you’re trying to pick at minutia rather than argue I am scum is almost a scum claim.

The most reasonable responses are troll and trying to take a bullet.
If FB was scum there the real IC just goes “nuh uh” and FB dies.

I doubt any scum does that ever.

Minutia like your slot literally fake claiming IC and then trying to get a lim through before mod came? How is that minutia...

MathBlade · Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:59 am

In post 3104, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3102, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3097, Dwlee99 wrote:How is it troll and not just straight up gamethrowing as town to fake reveal IC and try to shove a lim through before you're confirmed not confirmed?
I don’t believe in disparaging a player who is not here but if you believe FB game threw that’s for you and the mods to talk out. I happen to know FB and know I am town and the fact you’re trying to pick at minutia rather than argue I am scum is almost a scum claim.

The most reasonable responses are troll and trying to take a bullet.
If FB was scum there the real IC just goes “nuh uh” and FB dies.

I doubt any scum does that ever.
Minutia like your slot literally fake claiming IC and then trying to get a lim through before mod came? How is that minutia...

Because it is.
You’re picking something you don’t like vs scummy.

Harley Quinn · Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:11 am

In post 3096, numberQ wrote:Woke up 10 minutes ago after being sick yesterday, so I glazed over the 2-3 pages I had to catch up on. There were a lot of statistics and theories thrown out by Math and Dwlee and that is not the kind of content just-woke-up/sick brain should be analyzing.

MathBlade deflecting Dwlee's argument that FB could be scum feels a lot like the way he protected his scum buddies in Squid Game. Why can't troll!FB also be scum!FB? imo it's a mistake to flat out refuse the possibility.

Wasn’t he distancing his buddies in that game? Or was it just SS?

MathBlade · Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:13 am

In post 3106, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3096, numberQ wrote:Woke up 10 minutes ago after being sick yesterday, so I glazed over the 2-3 pages I had to catch up on. There were a lot of statistics and theories thrown out by Math and Dwlee and that is not the kind of content just-woke-up/sick brain should be analyzing.

MathBlade deflecting Dwlee's argument that FB could be scum feels a lot like the way he protected his scum buddies in Squid Game. Why can't troll!FB also be scum!FB? imo it's a mistake to flat out refuse the possibility.
Wasn’t he distancing his buddies in that game? Or was it just SS?

To be fair I didn’t view that as mafia and just did whatever

Harley Quinn · Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:26 am

Well at any rate, comparing your FB read to how you treated buddies doesn’t really make a lot of sense considering FB is the same slot. Because there have been zero scumflips, we have no associatives.

I think this game is stalled until Voyc actually does something, because it’s elo and they’re holding up the game. Wrt FB, I initially thought he was trying to drive a miselim on me but on reread, it looked like he was trying to see who would jump on me since he unvoted.

MathBlade · Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:43 am

In post 3108, Harley Quinn wrote:Well at any rate, comparing your FB read to how you treated buddies doesn’t really make a lot of sense considering FB is the same slot. Because there have been zero scumflips, we have no associatives.

I think this game is stalled until Voyc actually does something, because it’s elo and they’re holding up the game. Wrt FB, I initially thought he was trying to drive a miselim on me but on reread, it looked like he was trying to see who would jump on me since he unvoted.

It’s kinda silly because I have so many games you can argue almost anything.
I am not saying a person can’t scumread me but at least make an argument.

Looker · Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:46 pm

Travelling, but my sentiments haven't changed. Dwlee/Harley Quinn/Voyc/Looker maybe?

MegAzumarill · Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:48 pm

In post 3110, Looker wrote:Travelling, but my sentiments haven't changed. Dwlee/Harley Quinn/Voyc/Looker maybe?

Is that your townread list?

Looker · Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:50 pm

No, I was joking that maybe I'm the scum. Dwlee looks more suspicious from interaction with Mathblade, but I don't want to blindly trust Math just because they're using logic. Harley's responses to me were good but that doesn't really prove anything. I'm just posting so I don't get fined.

numberQ · Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:58 pm

Why do you think Dwlee is +scum with the Math interaction? I keep going back and forth on who I think looks worse out of those 2, and currently it's Math because I'm just not vibing with any of his logic.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:42 pm

Math's logic is always bad, not a way to read him

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:42 pm

Eh that sounds harsher than I mean, sorry

MegAzumarill · Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:16 am

*pokes voyc harder*

reminder you need to reveal if you are IC

MathBlade · Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:45 am

In post 3112, Looker wrote:No, I was joking that maybe I'm the scum. Dwlee looks more suspicious from interaction with Mathblade, but I don't want to blindly trust Math just because they're using logic. Harley's responses to me were good but that doesn't really prove anything. I'm just posting so I don't get fined.

You may be joking but I find it highly probable you are scum.

MathBlade · Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:47 am

In post 3113, numberQ wrote:Why do you think Dwlee is +scum with the Math interaction? I keep going back and forth on who I think looks worse out of those 2, and currently it's Math because I'm just not vibing with any of his logic.

What logic are you not vibing with?

Is it that the jester wagon has at least one scum on it? Then by PoE if you’re town you think one of Dwlee or I are scum. Based on the dichotomy you asked about that seems like you vibe with my logic and is a contradiction.

Fake vote Unvote

You both make it hard to decide between you.

Harley Quinn · Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:02 am

In post 3116, MegAzumarill wrote:*pokes voyc harder*

reminder you need to reveal if you are IC

If Voyc is the IC, that would actually explain a lot.

Harley Quinn · Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:06 am

In post 3075, Kerset wrote:
Vote Count 5.02With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Looker (0):
Voyc (0):
Mathblade (0):
numberQ (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(7): Voyc, Looker, Mathblade, Dwlee99, MegAzumarill, Harley Quinn, numberQ,

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-01-26 16:00:00)

Spoiler: Replacement guide
Not_Mafia->Alyssa The Lamb->Looker
Andante->mc esther
kunchi->ahhlo->Enchant
datsi->Voyc
DArby->Harley Quinn
Toogeloo->Firebringer->Mathblade

In post 3080, Kerset wrote:
voyc have been prodded

Will Voyc be #10 on the replacement list? If they’re the IC and get replaced, we had better get an extension.

Harley Quinn · Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:14 am

@mod, if Voyc is replaced, would we get an extension?

If they need it

Harley Quinn · Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:20 am

Would it help at all, to list one player you wouldn’t fake vote for, who you think is least likely to scum? Since Voyc isn’t posting, I’m leaving her out of this. Baring an IC reveal, I think Math is the most likely to be town here, so
least likely to vote there.

Harley Quinn · Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:21 am

In post 3118, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3113, numberQ wrote:Why do you think Dwlee is +scum with the Math interaction? I keep going back and forth on who I think looks worse out of those 2, and currently it's Math because I'm just not vibing with any of his logic.
What logic are you not vibing with?

Is it that the jester wagon has at least one scum on it? Then by PoE if you’re town you think one of Dwlee or I are scum. Based on the dichotomy you asked about that seems like you vibe with my logic and is a contradiction.

Fake vote Unvote

You both make it hard to decide between you.

This post looks pretty townie.

numberQ · Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:10 am

In post 3118, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3113, numberQ wrote:Why do you think Dwlee is +scum with the Math interaction? I keep going back and forth on who I think looks worse out of those 2, and currently it's Math because I'm just not vibing with any of his logic.
What logic are you not vibing with?

Is it that the jester wagon has at least one scum on it? Then by PoE if you’re town you think one of Dwlee or I are scum. Based on the dichotomy you asked about that seems like you vibe with my logic and is a contradiction.

Fake vote Unvote

You both make it hard to decide between you.

It's logic exactly like this I don't vibe with. Me thinking one of you looks worse than the other coming out of an interaction does NOT directly imply that I agree with your PoE. I think the jester wagon analysis is of minimal use because scum didn't know who was jester either.

And I'm still getting a bad smell from the meta argument you used to shade me.

In post 3123, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3118, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3113, numberQ wrote:Why do you think Dwlee is +scum with the Math interaction? I keep going back and forth on who I think looks worse out of those 2, and currently it's Math because I'm just not vibing with any of his logic.
What logic are you not vibing with?

Is it that the jester wagon has at least one scum on it? Then by PoE if you’re town you think one of Dwlee or I are scum. Based on the dichotomy you asked about that seems like you vibe with my logic and is a contradiction.

Fake vote Unvote

You both make it hard to decide between you.
This post looks pretty townie.

How is the quoted post townie? It's more dodgy logic, then he fake unvotes which is, uh, fake.