Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

[Dwlee99]

I also wouldn't kill kuriyama though and your reason sounds more made up

[Save The Dragons]

i can't find where kuriyama town read me so maybe i am making it up lol

[Save The Dragons]

I think Dragons is town because he is spending more time writing space romance than actually playing the game.

found it

[mc esther]

I don't know if she is just annoyed because I've never pushed her before or what

youve never pushed me before because, as far as i can tell, we've never played together. im pretty sure ive only played with dwlee and firebringer here.

prism, reiterating this, i really do think you have me mistaken for someone else. why do you think im whoever you think i am? i personally think im me.

firing up my computer (and brain) now.

[Prism]

You have a habit of using two hyphens instead of one.

The other player who does this, and has failed to change it across alts previously, is Morning Tweet.

[mc esther]

i literally /inned for morning tweet's game in theme queue

[Prism]

lmao, that settles that

[Save The Dragons]

cheater

[Save The Dragons]

(that's a joke)

[Prism]

Unfortunately this means the flurry of posting probably isn't as AI as I hoped it would wind up being so

haha yeet drawing board time

[Prism]

Maybe it still is.

Sounds like a problem for the Prism of tonight or tomorrow

[Brighter Puppy]

I am shocked that Brighter Puppy still says I even have "the most influence" because I mauled any reasonable ability to impose my reads on others with a sledgehammer on Day 1. In contrast, I am very confident in my ability to solo carry so long as there are no PRs or mechanical confirmation of me.

i dare u to try pushing anyone in this game today and seeing how many people will blind sheep u

[Brighter Puppy]

std and dwlee would have both killed kuriyama they are dirty liars.
why would scum!std take that townread seriously as scum. It was a jokish post.

[Brighter Puppy]

ah cool, shade time

SHADE ALL DAY MOTHER TRUCKER

[Save The Dragons]

i didn't think it was a joke

[Dwlee99]

i didn't think it was a joke

Cause you're scum?

[Save The Dragons]

did you want to present an actual argument or just call me scum

[mc esther]

i havent totally caught up/processed everything (i skimmed while half-awake), but based on what dwlee said about probably also eliminating within three as maf, okay i guess theyre not so obviously town [fmupov] after all. someone else (i think prism? i'll get back to it) said something else about this too that i havent really evaluated, but it's possibly moot in light of dwlee's "nah dont townread me here" lol.

[mc esther]

The entire chain of clearing based off of your flip is ???. Dunnstral literally showed up right after the wagon was hammered, and IV was in no danger. Brighter was committed to voting in 6 and at no point was IV in any danger. This is significantly more persuasive reversed to be about your slot being scum, which was actually a viable wagon.

if im town, then six-group maf was on the wagon, then dunn has to be town? i dont think this is batshit! iirc you kinda hinted somewhere that i should be more receptive to the all-town wagon possibility, but even if i should, i dont think that a refusal to do so would be batshit, it would be frustratingly stubborn at worst.

[mc esther]

i guess this is how an all-town wagon would happen, though -- maf meant to get on it and just lucked out when town jumped on before they could.

[mc esther]

The simplest scenario, and by far the most likely, is Todoroki putting up stiffer resistance and becoming townread, which would be disastrous and put me on the ropes the rest of the game if not out entirely.

can someone who's not prism weigh in on whether they believe this is true? i think he couldve disengaged with his towncred largely intact if toki became a consensus townread, but my take on this is probably the least informed of everyone here.

[mc esther]

okay imma quit the multiposting and collect everything into one post, because it seems like nobody's here to discuss individual points with, and i think this could get frustratingly spammy if i keep it up.

[mc esther]

lmao i found this post in another tab fuck im the worst sometimes. last short-form multi for now.

"Being open to 6" means if I am outnumbered and outvoted. I had my day as an ego monster, and do not intend to be a town dictator today.

this actually goes a long way towards explaining it to me -- i did note that while you were like, super vehemently against it on day one, you never outright said "we literally have to do this", "i literally wont vote six under any circumstances", etc.. the "it's because im not dictatorial, and now the thread seems less definitely on my side than yesterday" angle might make sense, especially given your account of six-hood discussion.

[Save The Dragons]

The simplest scenario, and by far the most likely, is Todoroki putting up stiffer resistance and becoming townread, which would be disastrous and put me on the ropes the rest of the game if not out entirely.

can someone who's not prism weigh in on whether they believe this is true? i think he couldve disengaged with his towncred largely intact if toki became a consensus townread, but my take on this is probably the least informed of everyone here.

not sure i understand fully but i don't think this is true

[mc esther]

dwlee assuming first that you will come to the two clear conclusion is an even bigger ?????? and second worried that town will buy it, based off of your play Day 1, is batshit crazy.

in this world (my world!), he buys it based on my alignment flip, not based on my persuasive prowess. i think you know this!

i'll acknowledge that your point three (which, i obviously didnt know, so refusing to factor it in doesnt say anything about my alignment) provides a strong explanation as to why dwlee would vote three-group as maf. and, after their admission that theyd do it as either alignment, im clearly wrong on this point. but i dont think i could possibly know i was wrong at the time i made this comment, painting my wrongness as scummy doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

overall, i just get flashbacks to the way prism dismissed todoroki's chain of reasoning (#408 through to #411) with the way prism dismisses mine. that's not alignment-indicative -- town probably consistently tends towards the same sort of reasoning -- but i think he should be a little more doubtful in his dismissal after such a read has already backfired once?