open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Andante]

see I'm getting good vibes off catboi, why are yall saying cat is best here? why not just yeet mena

[skitter30]

what are the good catboi vibes

i'm p sure any 3 players out of the players still alive as scum would make sure to get all night actions in ... ?
idk i don't get why we think she'd forget to take an action as scum. get blocked or something theoerteically, sure, but like i imagine someone would put down night action for her, no?

[Andante]

what incentive does maf have to ensure neighbors happen?

[skitter30]

not inherently to make sure that neighbors happen but to make sure she can 'prove' her role and not look bad for having mysteriously missing night actions

[Andante]

I mean, hey she can also just be town who forgot, but either way she's one of the ones like not even trying to towntell nor help find maf here so mehhh

[catboi]

@catboi, as i feel like i need to respond to what was said above

- although she's gotten good at, scum is still not skitter's preferred alignment. she prefers to keep her team with her rather than solo carry as she tends to lose energy in late game. "demotivated/not high energy is historically a scumtell for me" (i was aware of this)

Sorry, i said i would drop it but i dont get now you go from the quote to what u wrote above

You know that i flag and lose energy as scum .... whether or not i'm winning, there's only so long i can maintain 'good posting' as scum before i start spinning around in circles and hating literally every single time i need to post

It happened in slaughterhouse, where i was losing. It happened in deja vu, where i *winning* (most of my ranting that game happened, tbf, i believe in the hydra pt and not somewhere you were able to see, but iirc it was like 10 pages long and the latter half was just me like dying inside thinking abt needing to post and maintain that mess.)

I simply start to flag, and it takes more and more energy from me to continue posting. The fact that i'm winning is immaterial. This game is ridiculous, its dragging, and i would have lost the motivation to keep pretending to *care* as much as i do a very long time ago, that's just not really something i can fake. I would very, very, very badly want it to be over by now as scum, despite being apparently in a winning position

And i believe you *know* this ...

If i'm scum here i stop *trying* so hard (and quite simply, the game wouldnt need me too, so i wouldnt feel like i had to) ... but i'm town here and still think we're probably going to lose but i care more (or differently, at least), and still want to try to solve this utter mess in a way that i absolutely wouldnt be able to pretend to still as scum. Yes it would be great as scum if i can go around in circles and feel people out and so on but honestly it wouldnt be needed and its unlikely i keep dredging up the energy for that day after day after day after day

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Unless you want to argue i'm scum with exactly andante, i'm baffled why i would nk midway instead of andante when i could have just flipped him and used the nk for like literally anybody else

This doesnt prove i'm town or anything but just like its a silly thing to do as scum when i could just, like, not

Its a silly way to expand the nk when i could get the exact same slot out via a flip ... there's no point nk'ing someone when they're flippable. I had at least two chances ro flip him, both day1 and day2 ...

See,again, the key difference here: yo perceived things in slaughter hour were going bad (and also nancy drew replaced in and you didn't want to play with her,

which you told me

), so it was actually for entirely different reasons than what I wrongly assumed

And in deja vu you kept trying in spite of the fact that no one else on that team was doing

anything

I don't give a damn about how you felt

internally

, it very clearly did not come through in the game thread, and that game looked like a near certain loss on day 1. I absolutely could not have done that shit. In the late game you were the

only

thing keeping it going and it was only through

your

effort that scum won after tweet very nearly flipped that game around

So no I don't buy for a goddamn second the idea that you wouldn't be trying hard as scum

Your argument here boils down to "I would throw a game I was winning as scum" which is complete nonsense. No one should believe that. It is frankly insulting that you are even trying to argue this

[Datisi]

what incentive does maf have to ensure neighbors happen?

what incentive does maf in 4th spot of the draft even have for picking neighborizer

unless the team is *exactly* skitt/andante/mare and she was the lowest in draft

[catboi]

fucking hell, whatever coherent worldview i come up with, either it's two people that picked the same number or it's my tinfoil about [thing] being wrong

maybe it really is catboi/skitter/??? because nothing in this game is making sense rn

have those two even voted each other??? like at any point??? started building wagons on one another??? in contrast to how much shit they're spewing at each other???

and then one of s_s/alyssa, probably? s_s

I was avoiding it because I felt like menalque was the better vote and more important to my view of the game

[Andante]

what incentive does maf have to ensure neighbors happen?

what incentive does maf in 4th spot of the draft even have for picking neighborizer

unless the team is *exactly* skitt/andante/mare and she was the lowest in draft

idk why maf would pick neighborizor at all tbh, look I just wanna vote mena and move on, cause tbh this is a town loss, we have mare/ss/mena not trying, and mena is probably the only maf in that? if there's 2 or more town in that pool, it's an auto loss here

[Kaiji]

i'm just waiting on mena to be replaced or for them to come back honestly

[Andante]

Kaji, what's your read on catboi

[Something_Smart]

having teammates doesn't matter if you have trouble figuring out a target and never submit one in time

Depends if the mod allows people to submit actions for their partners. Most mods do.

[skitter30]

ok ... i don't particularly care to litigate this further

pedit @catboi

[catboi]

I spent most of day 2 wanting to vote mena only to get pushback from the rest of the thread on it, if I have a partner who's getting cleared by people in the thread I don't fuck it up by bussing for noreason and ou should absolutely know that

Uh ... where? You voted him twice but basically made no effort to flip or push him or to get other people to wagon him

This is a really really weak reason for me to think you're unaligned, there's like no oomph to ur mena push at all

this made me go back and reread myself and I really didn't argue hard enough for it, I guess because I didn't have the confidence, but still

[Andante]

@SS who is maf/town here

[catboi]

I'm probably just being dumb on mare but in these situations I can't help but run through nightmare scenarios in my brain

[Something_Smart]

@mod do you allow mafia members to submit actions for their partners

[Something_Smart]

@SS who is maf/town here

I don't know

[skitter30]

see I'm getting good vibes off catboi, why are yall saying cat is best here? why not just yeet mena

@andante

pedit yes so why should i not think your'e partnered with him exactly? or why is it absurd that i could think of such a pairing?

also do u think i ought to be townreading you here?

[skitter30]

what are the good catboi vibes

whoops wrong quote, imeant this one

[Andante]

@SS who is maf/town here

I don't know

So like, I think you're town.. definitely need help figuring out who to vote here/whatnot..

[catboi]

whatever fuck it resolve this today while we have a ML

VOTE: skitter

flip me or flip skitter here because at this point she has all but scumclaimed to me. either kill me and see that I'm town then get her after or get her today

[skitter30]

are we finishing massclaim today ... ?

[Andante]

know what I don't understand. skitter was very anti against claiming... like, it was basically softing cop/pgo or whatever... then when it comes time to claiming, skitter claims vt

[Andante]

the mena slot has literally given us NOTHING this entire game... even with a replacement, 5000 posts to catch up on?? like why should we not lim mena here..