CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[The Three Bears]

You are negative utility?

OK now you need to talk....

_Pinkie the InterroBear Pt 2

[Roden]

Read twie. The thing that is most sticking out to me is his pivot from seemingly wanting ircher to die d1 to defending him d2. What's with that?

His fixation on role blocks becomes interesting in light of tet's claim to be roleblocked

Spoiler: TWIE Roleblock posts

honestly unless theres no one else to lim should have ircher try again on either day 3 or 4 and make scum spend role blocks on him if theyre that concerned with him not being confirmed

if your action was roleblocked can you use it tonight? for non consec? im assuming not but worth a check

okay but the point is you say choose 1 of night 3 or 4 to use your ability and then scum have to RB him twice if they are committing to preventing a confirm

which is a pretty big commitment when a kill has already been prevented

but the high roll of tying up 2 scum rbs is pretty nice still

especially since the prs of this game appear to be x shot or gated

I hadn't noticed that until you mentioned it, but yeah a large section of his posts is just dedicated to trying to make a convincing case to save Ircher. Or more accurately, the entirety of his Day 2 posts are about Ircher.

[tictac]

You are negative utility?

OK now you need to talk....

_Pinkie the InterroBear Pt 2

i claimed ascetic in my first post.

[The Three Bears]

not that the additional nail in the coffin was needed but hey gotta stay safe against zombies.

TWIE, Andante and Tictac is where my mind is at currently.

-Pinky


PEDIT: Oh yeah someone mentioned that.

-Pinkie the red faced bear

[Roden]

thewayitends is probably scum simply because in a game that seems fixated on running up lurkers his name has not come up which suggests scum are more interested in pushing other targets

this a hot take

scum are only pushing lurkers

makes lurker push

A+ self callout

Reading this post again while looking through his ISO, and I think he might have slipped that he has an informed perspective? Catboi never said scum were pushing lurkers, he made a comment about the game state focusing on that.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

i think u stretchin there but idk if its a stretch worth makin or not

[NorwegianboyEE]

im not going to make a lot of assumptions about flavor this game. let's just play mafia imo.

okay who's da scumz

this is a good question which overall is pending my desire to review ircher interactions.

honestly, i thought val was the one we had right.

subject to change after taking in d1 data. but right now my spots of greatest concern are bell and tictac. roden and the folks who are catching heat today are all maybes. among the bigger posters, i don't have much reason to tr norwegian.

I was one of the main people actually driving Ircher wagon on day 1? Hello?
And here ur being: "Eh, don’t have much reason to townread Norwegian". Come on.
Though it hurts more when Mush said it. :/

[MUSHSHAGANA]

do u know what a deepwolf is

like i tr u but i worry: should i?

[Galron]

VOTE: ircher

Fuck it. Just end it.

Need context. What were these posts about? @Galron.

Shrug I guess?

[Bell]

No.
Explain what you were thinking and feeling at that time that motivated you to make those posts.

[Roden]

i think u stretchin there but idk if its a stretch worth makin or not

A bit yeah, the simple and reasonable answer could just be that he just misinterpreted Catboi's post. However, seeing this post:

can this really dumb conversation end so we can get back to talking about me

Lead into this post:

thewayitends is probably scum simply because in a game that seems fixated on running up lurkers his name has not come up which suggests scum are more interested in pushing other targets

this a hot take

scum are only pushing lurkers

makes lurker push

A+ self callout

Is just odd. It doesn't add up to me that he would want attention and then get hyper defensive when he got it.

VOTE: TheWayItEnds

[Galron]

I wanted the day over and ircher dead.

[Bell]

I wanted the day over and ircher dead.

And why did you want those two things to happen at the time?

[Malakittens]

not that the additional nail in the coffin was needed but hey gotta stay safe against zombies.

TWIE, Andante and Tictac is where my mind is at currently.

-Pinky


PEDIT: Oh yeah someone mentioned that.

-Pinkie the red faced bear

Disagree. On two of those reads:

I’d add Mastina or Cep

[Malakittens]

VOTE: the way it ends

Sucks for the way it’s ending for scum

Ggnore

[Galron]

I wanted the day over and ircher dead.

And why did you want those two things to happen at the time?

Bell if there's a point to this, get to it bc i'm not following you're line of questioning

[Roden]

i'm going to be a stick in the mud, ircher was going down like a sinking ship the only person who didn't think ircher was going down was andante for some reason

it was just a matter of whether ircher was town or scum. i actually thought he was going to flip town at the end of the day. the fact that he flipped scum changes a few things. it means people defending him probably were town unaware he was going to flip red (andante, Twie) and that some people who were heavily trying to drag him down were bussing him (roden).

I was hoping someone would notice this first. Ircher has been ignoring most people who try to case him, only ever replying to people he thinks are easy to out-argue.

what if ircher ignored roden because they're scumbuddies.

Anyway the real reason Ircher is scum here is because there is a 100% chance we have a Voyeur and/or a Watcher and there's no way they don't sit on Ircher N1 to catch a Roleblocker. But no one's stepping forward to vouch for Ircher besides I guess Andante, who just claimed VT.

This is a really weird reason to sr ircher

Gonna ignore the first two paragraphs because you're essentially saying you'd scum read me regardless of what Ircher flipped. If Ircher is scum I'm bussing, if he's town then I'm pushing a mis-elim. The proof of your confbias is in the very next thing you say.

You're claiming Ircher ignored me because we're scum buddies. But the point I make in the post you quoted is that he

wasn't

ignoring me, in fact he was going out of his way to engage with me more than almost everyone else in the game. That's why Mush suggested that it could be theatre in the first place.

That last bit wasn't why I scum read Ircher, I was giving a mechanical reason for why Ircher was caught scum. I'm not sure why you'd even bring that post up.

[Save The Dragons]

if ircher flipped town i would have thought you were town from it

[Cephrir]

Please open your mouth wider std he needs to put more words in it

[Malakittens]

That’s what he said.

[Cephrir]

It... isnt...

[Roden]

if ircher flipped town i would have thought you were town from it

I don't buy that. You scum read me for getting ignored by Ircher even though that was proven to not have happened, and you haven't reversed your read on me or explained how it changes your read after it got pointed out. This is a problem, because I still think you're town but your read looks fake.

Please open your mouth wider std he needs to put more words in it

Ceph, come on.

[Cephrir]

No :3

[Roden]

If I shout it louder will it get through your thick skull

IF X, THEN Y vs JUST X AND Y

This is the post that made me town bin you, it feels like a very genuine reaction and I don't think scum would have the foresight to fake frustration here. Maybe it's a dumb reason to town read you, but it's something that makes sense to me.

i know roden's good at scum and he's good at the game, he's not going to be bad town

Besides the confbias tunnel, this is the only other post that gives me pause. Scum reading someone for playing poorly is just, bad. And doesn't even make sense if you think I'm good scum, because I would have to be good at faking town as well.

[Roden]

i actually think roden's interactions with ircher were theatre/distancing

Wait, STD you already said here that you thought it was theatre. What made you suggest Ircher was ignoring me?

Furthermore why does a town!Ircher flip clear me?