open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Datisi]

i believe s_s visited no one

i do not in the slightest believe that clears him

[Andante]

UNVOTE: mena

even if we lim mena, I probably shouldn't be voting the maf vengeful lol

[catboi]

i was going to say i'd rather be yeeted today than be the potential game losing miselim tomorrow but potential n3 vig

[Andante]

i was going to say i'd rather be yeeted today than be the potential game losing miselim tomorrow but potential n3 vig

if mena is venge... and maf

[Andante]

Like, I genuinely do not believe mena is real, the more I think about it... only tells us about a GUILTY after being prodded? mena definitely saw the guilty earlier

[Andante]

i was going to say i'd rather be yeeted today than be the potential game losing miselim tomorrow but potential n3 vig

cause if you're town, we flip you, flip mena the vengeful tomorrow and lose

[catboi]

right the whole timing of it makes it beyond obvious that it's not real

[catboi]

i was going to say i'd rather be yeeted today than be the potential game losing miselim tomorrow but potential n3 vig

cause if you're town, we flip you, flip mena the vengeful tomorrow and lose

well that or scum have a n3 vig and just win overnight

[Andante]

and the "don't hammer it" uh what? if you're calling catboi a hard guilty... and you don't want it hammered? is this your SR from reading? meaning you've been here...

[Andante]

if mena isn't vengeful, I don't think maf have that slot

[catboi]

actually it's possible he was lurking it out this whole time to see whether it was safe to fakeclaim or not

[skitter30]

Fwiw i dont think he was doing that irregardless of his alignment

But if we're postulatibg mena is venge bracket, we still have a missing vig slot

[Datisi]

if mena is vengeful, then there has to be scum within me/catboi/skitter as the 1s vig

me being scum means doubled up numbers
catboi being scum means this whole thing today was scum theatre and frankly what the fuck
skitter being scum is? eh?? i GUESS???

so i kinda don't think he is vengeful but idk lole

[Andante]

GUYS GUYS GUYS I was going about my morning, and I had a thought, I don't think Dats can be maf here actually. which means my reads are just.. yeah. I think dats is up with Alyssa and SS and my strongest TRs and that scares me.

[Andante]

ok, I'm going back to skitter claiming to have picked jk. so why were we going after me being maf, for picking jk instead of tracker, yet skitter openly claims jk and no one questions her?

[Datisi]

please tell me your thought process behind me being town because i *really* want to hear it

[Andante]

@Mena, get back here and explain if your claim is real or not please

[Andante]

please tell me your thought process behind me being town because i *really* want to hear it

hahaha see, I'm TRing Kaji for getting all mad at me over I don't remember what, and I remember there was something with you that really angered me as well, so like, I can't just TR kaji but not you, like, I still need to go back for sure, I know there's parts I don't tr you for, but also like, when I ask you for maf if mena were real, and you go through that process to say it's me and ss? ehh I feel like maf you would've went about that differently.

My brain is just too scrambled tbh. I just wanna flip mare for doing nothing, but then that leaves the question of who else? Say mena's claim is real, there's a maf in mena/cat. I liked your comment about scum theater, like, honestly there's been something very off about how people are interacting with cat, like, hmm what if it was a skitter/mena/cat team? bus the one that has like universal suspicion, go "oh yeah skitter town"

like, it ultimately goes down to what I'm TRing kaji for vs you, like, I see no reason I shouldn't tr both yall if I'm TRing 1, but yours is a stronger level tr, like, you're over there all "you aren't actually doing much!" even though I'm genuinely trying, I feel like it'd be a lot easier for maf to just leave me alone/let me lead myself to confusion. Also the IV kill night 1, I don't think you'd have killed the one that was in your pocket that quickly tbh

[Andante]

watch this maf team be dats/Alyssa/SS ... if that's the case, skitter, I'm gonna need you to like start taking charge lol same for you catboi... ok, I'm letting this game sit, and we'll see what I think after time away, cause it feels super simple, yet impossible... I still think yall getting cakez was a dumb wagon tbh cakez should still be here

[Something_Smart]

Is no-flipping crazy here?

One advantage to it is it lets us prove whether Mena is really ascetic cop; if we trust that Andante and Mare are both town, we can no-exe and have them both try to visit him.

This would not clear him but it could guilty him if he's vengeful, or BP, or some other scum role desperation claiming.

If scum have a vengeful or N3 vig elsewhere, then a no-exe today is reasonable, otherwise it's obviously bad. Given the amount of VT claims and the fact that scum obviously wanted killing power I would say it's probably better than even odds that they do.

[Something_Smart]

Can we flip venge in elo or is it just auto-loss if we dont take venge our before elo?

I think if scum venge survives to elo we have to execute them last in order to win.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

if this were any other game, i'd recommend yeeting outside of mena/catboi to see if mena dies or not, but if we hit green it's probably not gonna be looking great, and i don't think we manage to actually agree on a scumread

i absolutely do not want to noflip

mena isn't going to die because his slot will continue to look garbage and we'll be stuck in the same shit tomorrow, except it actually will be mylo

Humhum

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm thinking it's Datisi/Menalque/? atm

Gut tells me it's probably one of S_S/Kaiji

[Datisi]

if this were any other game, i'd recommend yeeting outside of mena/catboi to see if mena dies or not, but if we hit green it's probably not gonna be looking great, and i don't think we manage to actually agree on a scumread

i absolutely do not want to noflip

mena isn't going to die because his slot will continue to look garbage and we'll be stuck in the same shit tomorrow, except it actually will be mylo

Humhum

what are you attempting to achieve with this post

[Kaiji]

Im thinking we flip mena.

I think mena claimed cop to implicate me if scum and his flip will help resolve skitter too if town