In post 5006, Andante wrote:catboi, are you town here? cause it really doesn't feel like you're trying to consider who is maf here... it's more like "I'm town, trust me! oh and dats can vouch for me!" like, ok, you're town, who does that make maf?
I'm sorry I kind of shift into a different mode when someone is claiming a guilty on me in a situation that could very possibly be MELO
I was very obviously trying to figure out who was mafia for a good part of the day prior to this and I don't know why you'd ignore that because I was not immediately outing a 3/3 in the hours after I had a guilty claimed on me
I can try to look back at pooky/mena stuff from the perspective of knowing they're confirmed scum later, assuming he does not come back and go "haha jk it was actually all a test"
In post 5018, Andante wrote:I confirm alive mena is real... doesn't mean those reports are real
It makes them much more likely to be, since it eliminates all the scenarios where Mena doesn't really have the cop pair, and even some where he does. Whereas, if you don't track Mena, you are guaranteed no info because he always makes the kill if scum.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
ok fine.. tracking mena
catboi is literally avoiding the "well if I'm town, maf has to be in X"
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 5023, Andante wrote:you trust the "I have a hard guilty but don't vote it out" ???
That's a town mindset fwiw. If Mena wants to catch up/say more he wouldn't want the day ended quickly because he would obviously die if catboi flipped scum.
It is an easy mindset to fake as scum of course, but it's generally pro-town to be cautious in a situation like this.
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Maybe lets just have mare try to hood him if we dont flip him today, i actually dont trust andante to be leashed and i think that's possibly scum-indicatice but whatever
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 5006, Andante wrote:catboi, are you town here? cause it really doesn't feel like you're trying to consider who is maf here... it's more like "I'm town, trust me! oh and dats can vouch for me!" like, ok, you're town, who does that make maf?
I'm sorry I kind of shift into a different mode when someone is claiming a guilty on me in a situation that could very possibly be MELO
I was very obviously trying to figure out who was mafia for a good part of the day prior to this and I don't know why you'd ignore that because I was not immediately outing a 3/3 in the hours after I had a guilty claimed on me
I can try to look back at pooky/mena stuff from the perspective of knowing they're confirmed scum later, assuming he does not come back and go "haha jk it was actually all a test"
I'm trying to find the team that makes the most possible sense. Mare is gonna be thrown in by default for doing nothing, and if I had any idea of what you were thinking, like dats at least said it's me and SS (not sure how that makes sense, but it's a read...) but after the guilty, you like took on this stance of "I'm town, people can prove it!" rather than thoughts about where we should vote. Just like dats was obsessed with how people read him the majority of the game. If I SR you, I'm inclined to just vote you out see what happens, that's really where I'm at right now
In post 5029, skitter30 wrote:Maybe lets just have mare try to hood him if we dont flip him today, i actually dont trust andante to be leashed and i think that's possibly scum-indicatice but whatever
Oh wait yes it just occurred to me that we don't need Mare alive to confirm whether the hooding worked.
Having Andante track Mena is still useful because she can't really do anything else, but you are right that we don't have to rely on her.
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In post 5023, Andante wrote:you trust the "I have a hard guilty but don't vote it out" ???
That's a town mindset fwiw. If Mena wants to catch up/say more he wouldn't want the day ended quickly because he would obviously die if catboi flipped scum.
It is an easy mindset to fake as scum of course, but it's generally pro-town to be cautious in a situation like this.
ok, but mena is responding to the prod PM... ignoring the daystart pm?? doesn't feel towny at ALL to me... if I was cop, I'd at least check my report, then go from there, MEna waited like 4 days to out this guilty? and to say dont hammer it?? not sure how it's believable
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 5022, Andante wrote:So I'm here like "catboi really isn't solving, just doing what dats kinda was doing earlier" and you're trying to change the topic for why I need to track mena? ok whatever I'll tell you I'll track mena. just like midway. I don't like the change in conversation
god are you serious right now
this is not how I operate and the most important thing for me right now is convincing people menalque is mafia
doing a bunch of performative "solving" shit that sounds nice would be utterly trivial to fake anyway
your top scumread outs a guilty reportt and dips and suddenly you go "hey maybe he has a point" when he has done literally FUCKALL, like what is this sudden double standard where i'm not "solving" when he's literally been MIA all game
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 5006, Andante wrote:catboi, are you town here? cause it really doesn't feel like you're trying to consider who is maf here... it's more like "I'm town, trust me! oh and dats can vouch for me!" like, ok, you're town, who does that make maf?
I'm sorry I kind of shift into a different mode when someone is claiming a guilty on me in a situation that could very possibly be MELO
I was very obviously trying to figure out who was mafia for a good part of the day prior to this and I don't know why you'd ignore that because I was not immediately outing a 3/3 in the hours after I had a guilty claimed on me
I can try to look back at pooky/mena stuff from the perspective of knowing they're confirmed scum later, assuming he does not come back and go "haha jk it was actually all a test"
I'm trying to find the team that makes the most possible sense. Mare is gonna be thrown in by default for doing nothing, and if I had any idea of what you were thinking, like dats at least said it's me and SS (not sure how that makes sense, but it's a read...) but after the guilty, you like took on this stance of "I'm town, people can prove it!" rather than thoughts about where we should vote. Just like dats was obsessed with how people read him the majority of the game. If I SR you, I'm inclined to just vote you out see what happens, that's really where I'm at right now
i'm sorry i can't MAGICALLY DECIDE ON A TEAM IN FOUR HOURS
In post 5035, Andante wrote:ok, but mena is responding to the prod PM... ignoring the daystart pm?? doesn't feel towny at ALL to me... if I was cop, I'd at least check my report, then go from there, MEna waited like 4 days to out this guilty? and to say dont hammer it?? not sure how it's believable
Making claims about activity being AI is always suspect to me given RL factors, but I do think you are right here that town-Mena with a guilty is more likely to proactively check and post his result than scum-Mena who failed to lurk out the pressure and is now trying a different tactic.
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In post 5036, skitter30 wrote:No actually we'd need her to be alive, he would just lie aby the hood, no?
I was assuming that the OP of the hood would list who had access to it and that Datisi would know whether it succeeded or not. I guess that's worth double-checking.
@mod are the members of a neighborhood known to all hood members at all times?
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In post 5034, Something_Smart wrote:Though if Mare dies then Datisi can lie about whether the hood succeeded. Seems like people generally townread Datisi though?
i cannot since a new hood is created every night
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 3392, Menalque wrote:thoughts might be something of an ask but I can give impressions if that works
I didn't like cakez' very end of day push toward me, but I especially didn't like that his pretty gung-ho "kill mena" seemed to be entirely forgotten today, also that he hasn't actually addressed me or spoken to me since I repped in, and that insofar as his read on me isn't purely based on pooky it seems to be from a v lazy "mena not here therefore mena scum" outdated meta read
will vote midway I guess but in my very limited capacity I feel like the difficulty in getting traction on either of cakez/catboi is probably telling given that sleepless/myself/maybe kaiji!slot have all been p easy to run up at one point or another and given that 2/3 are town with potentials for all 3 I wonder if scum are just propping up any alt wagon that comes along while avoiding each other
I need to read cakez/catboi interactions more closely tho, I'm not sure if they make sense as scum teaming or just that they could each be individually
and hm. okay, I got the impression that it wasn't so much that sleepless/flow trap were hard to get votes on as it was that they were both easy to get votes on and the momentum kept swinging back and forth. catboi it never really felt like a serious wagon? I think it was only 3 quite briefly and that was early in the day
okay maybe I just have no idea wtf scum are trying to do these days
In post 4080, Menalque wrote:if town continues exactly like this and it's not like, exactly mwb/catboi/cakez or something then yes big trouble
but with the PRs doing something and that being broadly correct then even if today/tomo are mislims there's still time to turn it around
In post 4081, Menalque wrote:I mean I'm not exactly enthused by PR reliant play but I feel like my chances of sorting non-mechanically are somewhat flawed given rusty-ness and lack of time
I would love to test my theory and we flip one of cakez/catboi and find out but I don't have either the confidence or the presence to try things my way via day play
In post 4082, skitter30 wrote:there's more baitlims in this game than there are available misflips so i'm not super enthused by that strategy
tbh your slot is one of them too ...
yah, I was kind of half figuring that my flip might be one of the ones that would prompt re-eval
re: voting on catboi/cakez. skitt I was barely making it to thread last week, I didn't know the exact wagons. I'm only here now because no students turned up during my last 1.5hrs and so I can be here for a bit while avoiding lesson planning
would you be interested in doing catboi now ?
In post 4908, Menalque wrote:Sorry I haven’t been around but uh, yeah, this may be useful info: i have a hard guilty on catboi
I went and pulled every post menalque had about me up to the guilty claim
and I know "zomg he has no reasons" is cliche bullcrap but he literally had no justification for scumreading me at all at any point
his entire push n cakez amounted to "he is scum for pushing me"
I'm not convinced he's actually read any of the game at all
In post 5036, skitter30 wrote:No actually we'd need her to be alive, he would just lie aby the hood, no?
I was assuming that the OP of the hood would list who had access to it and that Datisi would know whether it succeeded or not. I guess that's worth double-checking.
@mod are the members of a neighborhood known to all hood members at all times?
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
