Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

[MathBlade]

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Then what are you doing to solve the game?

Absolutely nothing

Damn the contradiction is strong with this enby.

@Looker why are you ignoring the Jester wagon after saying you liked my posts? The reason I say this is because your fake vote is off wagon.

Started suspecting them here.
Their voting pattern doesn’t match what they are saying.
And most of their posts don’t seem to follow a train of recognizable thought.

[Looker]

Whoops I meant @HarleyQuinn on the question I was reading Looker’s posts and said the wrong name

[MathBlade]

Catching up, I’m once again reacessing my reads. I’m starting to rethink my Fire sr, since Math doesn’t feel scummy to me, which makes me now feel a bit better about Meg and has me once again doubting everything. It’s extremely important we get it right and don’t miselim.

It’s very concerning to me that Math is the only one who has bothered to read my posts. Looker has misrepped my play and Dwlee is not reacessing for some reason. I honestly don’t understand why everyone but me is tr that slot. I just have to hope I’m wrong and everyone else is right on them but I don’t think so.

Where’s your fake vote at?

And please excuse my paranoia but why does me being town make you feel better about Meg?

I would probably fake vote Looker or Voyc. Oh because she defended Fire but I guess I shouldn’t read too much into that. I thought he was scum.

Ooh it was both.

So no one if town should want Voyc.

Kinda feeling Dwlee/Meg/Looker

Wrong post my bad
I am on my phone

[MathBlade]

Looker was a posts kept getting worse and worse read and with that on the end, I am pretty confident Looker is scum especially if it’s Numbers/Meg/Looker.

Meg would have to argue that it’s exactly me Koba and Quinn to keep her reads and she just isn’t. So Meg is more likely scum than Koba and also doesn’t answer what scum were doing if not on the jester wagon.

[Looker]

Started suspecting them here.
Their voting pattern doesn’t match what they are saying.
And most of their posts don’t seem to follow a train of recognizable thought.

What has been my voting pattern?

[Looker]

Looker was a posts kept getting worse and worse read and with that on the end, I am pretty confident Looker is scum especially if it’s Numbers/Meg/Looker.

Are you sure it's not because you kept asking me about sandwiches...? Or because we've had two slots fakeclaim IC and are waiting for a replacement to elim one of them...?

[MathBlade]

Dwlee99 have been revealed as

Innocent Child

DkKoba (Voyc)/Harley Quinn/MegAzumarill

I don't like that both Mathfire's and DkKobaVoyc's slots fakeclaimed IC (Voyc didn't strike me as very impactful, either, and - much like Quinn and Meg - voted predominantly town). Willing to vote Quinn as potential scum to ease burden of replacement. Meg is paranoia.

@IC: Can I vote? As in, are you ready to die?

Is this because I flipped from Dwlee to you?

Also, was DkKoba trying to normalize IC fakeclaims to make Firebringer look less scummy?

Also, also, has no one really meta'd me to see where the sandwich came from? Can that desperation be recognized in other visual behaviors? (The last sentence is admittedly kind of paranoid)

This doesn’t make any sense.

Either A> Looker is sussing the IC which is bad
Or B> He says it’s me + Koba + Numbers
In which case he’d help me bus numbers but isn’t

The sandwich thing also contributes

[Looker]

I thought all this discussion was a formality. Are we not elimming DkKoba/MathFireBladeBringer when Harley Quinn is replaced?

p-edit: Sussing how? Can you explain? And where did Numbers come from?

[MathBlade]

Looker was a posts kept getting worse and worse read and with that on the end, I am pretty confident Looker is scum especially if it’s Numbers/Meg/Looker.

Are you sure it's not because you kept asking me about sandwiches...? Or because we've had two slots fakeclaim IC and are waiting for a replacement to elim one of them...?

Koba’s the only one that can possibly be scum though.

I have been spewed town already lol.

And it’s Koba
They do bad tunnels

So it’s realistically Numbers/Looker/Meg

[MegAzumarill]

They literally posted their current solve in the quoted posts

[MathBlade]

I thought all this discussion was a formality. Are we not elimming DkKoba/MathFireBladeBringer when Harley Quinn is replaced?

p-edit: Sussing how? Can you explain? And where did Numbers come from?

Lmao this is comedic gold
I quoted the post where you list three scum after Dwlee reveals and they’re in it

And no, it’s not a formality.
The answer was is and always will be Dwlee votes and that person dies period.

We need Dwlee on the elim and so they decide.

[MathBlade]

But what if Dwlee is wrong? Cry the scum
Then we lose and would have lost anyway.

[MegAzumarill]

really dwlee just needs to decide this conversation is going in circles

either that or were waiting on another sub to catch up

[MathBlade]

Like I mean their solve is pretty bad. Quinn was obv town and Voyc had too many people sussing them and bussing in elo is silly so there’s two town. Rule of three means meg is the scum in Looker’s PoE

[MathBlade]

In this I agree it is in circles.
It will come down to Dwlee regardless of replacement.

[Looker]

I have been spewed town already lol.

Where?

I thought all this discussion was a formality. Are we not elimming DkKoba/MathFireBladeBringer when Harley Quinn is replaced?

p-edit: Sussing how? Can you explain? And where did Numbers come from?

Lmao this is comedic gold
I quoted the post where you list three scum after Dwlee reveals and they’re in it

Bro, I need some red meat. Can you highlight it? I don't see it.

[numberQ]

If town votes town theoretically all 3 mafia can vote and game is over

Oh, duh. My brain wasn't working when I asked that question apparently.

[numberQ]

The anger is coming from your extreme arrogance. You accuse me of ignoring things or not reading, but then you put words in my mouth and ignore things I've said.

I answered your question about scum being on the jester wagon here, with the caveat that the question itself is leading and slippery. I do think there was scum on it, because I think you are scum. But I do NOT think there

had

to be scum on it. In other words, I disagree with your reasoning that an all town wagon was unlikely. I'm saying I have other reasons to scumread you, it has little if anything to do with the wagon itself. I don't know how many different ways I can explain this.

You’re expressing frustration over being “caught for the wrong reasons” or moon logic.

Your post here with the anger tells me you’re not reading.

Is there a point to posts like this beyond provoking an emotional reaction out of me? You're literally just making up reasons for me being frustrated while completely disregarding what I'm saying.

Who do you think is scum out of Meg and Koba Numbers?

More likely Meg, but I feel like I always scumread Meg in every game. Koba/Voyc haven't given me many scum vibes though.

Except this still isn’t an explanation.
This is the same logical contradiction. Just with anger on it.

You can’t argue I am both scum and no scum on the wagon.
So if you think I am scum then there has to be scum on the wagon, as it would be me.

If you argue no scum you again dodged the question of what scum would be doing.
At this point it’s no longer productive to keep engaging as I don’t believe this is in good faith.

You should be able to follow the yes no map based on knowing you then do what is asked.

Imho Numbers and Looker are both scum and almost nothing will change my mind.

Are you reading my posts?

I did not say there was no scum on the jester wagon.

I said there was scum on the wagon, and it was you.

I said that I did not factor the wagon itself into that read at all, whereas you were using the wagon as the basis for there being scum between myself or Dwlee (pre-reveal). That is the part of your logic I've continued to take issue with.

It is so rich seeing you say you don't think this is in good faith because you have constantly and consistently ignored, misrepresented, or twisted what I've said.

[numberQ]

A point Numbers has ignored 3-4 times now

All I can do is laugh at this point. I'm being trolled aren't I?

On the off chance this isn't all a joke: I HAVE NOT IGNORED THIS POINT. THE REASON I DIDN'T ANSWER IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING UP ME SAYING THERE WAS NO SCUM ON THE WAGON.

[numberQ]

I can really only take this game in small bursts right now. I don't think I've ever gotten this worked up over a game. I think it's the combination of the jester fucking with my head for 3 days, weird activity pace the entire game has had, the thousands of replacements, and it all culminates with Math here gaslighting me or ignoring half the content of my posts or I have no idea.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: looker

[Looker]

VOTE: looker

Not even gonna pretend anymore, huh?

Spoiler:

Just gonna be scum out in the open.

Spoiler:

I have been spewed town already lol.

Where?

I thought all this discussion was a formality. Are we not elimming DkKoba/MathFireBladeBringer when Harley Quinn is replaced?

p-edit: Sussing how? Can you explain? And where did Numbers come from?

Lmao this is comedic gold
I quoted the post where you list three scum after Dwlee reveals and they’re in it

Bro, I need some red meat.

Can you highlight it? I don't see it.

And I guess you figured this was impossible? And so declined?

[Looker]

I'm guessing right now that Harley Quinn was town and the fourth member we need to vote out one of the three remaining scum.

Who here is opposed to elimming one of the fakeclaimers?

[Looker]

dkvoyc - Fakeclaimed, scummy under the guise of "memeing". So desperate to miselim that they jumped on a post about sandwiches.
harley - Getting replaced
looker - Me. Willing to vote fakeclaimer.
megazum - Wants to leash everyone to Dwlee's decision (same as Mathblade) despite Post 3251

Spoiler:

Mathblade can you actually solve, I don't have perfect reads even being confirmed + your slot is in contention so town tell or something

number - Being gaslit/enraged/handled by Mathfire. Will maybe vote Math?
dwlee - Posting about sandwiches instead of being the accountability scapegoat for the entire town
mathfire - Firebringer replacement after slot fakeclaimed. Says he's been spewed town but doesn't show where. Also misattributes Harley's posts to me and says things are in my posts that aren't there even as he's quoting said post.

I'm confident it's DkKoba, but, even if it's not, I'm willing to lose on it. Same thing to a lesser degree with Mathfire

[MegAzumarill]

If we're doing Looker v Koba I'm on Koba but we need the almighty dwlee to step in