open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Kaiji]

i want to force enchant to check alyssa slot

VOTE: sleep

[skitter30]

VOTE: Enchant

if you dont go on enchant when we no lim ur throwing btw

this ^

kaiji what changed your mind on me?

play-wise tbh i think i probably townread kaiji here the most

[Kaiji]

its more of im sick of ppl not trying and ur one of the few slots who are and not just blending into the apathy and im willing to hand it to you if youre scum putting in effort

[Andante]

VOTE: Enchant

if you dont go on enchant when we no lim ur throwing btw

this ^

kaiji what changed your mind on me?

play-wise tbh i think i probably townread kaiji here the most

really? I don't TR kaji at all, only after all the talk about how if we no lim and there's no vig we lose the mis lim, has kaji decided "oh yes. lets no lim!!"

[Kaiji]

its liklier that scum lost steam and lack endurance than scum is continually findign reasons to play the game when they arent really at risk.

[skitter30]

My prevailing thought regarding no kill is that Enchant, if scum, just claims a guilty on a town, the scumteam kill whatever town is most likely to see through the deception, and they just need to convince whatever other towns are left that they're right and they're simply home free

and i guess from your pov, can you answer the following questoins plz:

- why did mena pick a guilty on catboi
- who is the scumteam most likely to kill?

pedit fair enuf
although i think my trying-ness has kinda slacked off these past irl days, do with that as you will

[Kaiji]

VOTE: Enchant

if you dont go on enchant when we no lim ur throwing btw

this ^

kaiji what changed your mind on me?

play-wise tbh i think i probably townread kaiji here the most

really? I don't TR kaji at all, only after all the talk about how if we no lim and there's no vig we lose the mis lim, has kaji decided "oh yes. lets no lim!!"

u literally have a 0% readrate on me so thanks for confirming me as town.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

idk

I guess I'm a non-content poster then

[Alyssa The Lamb]

you're not getting cases from me so I guess you're stuck in your tunnel on me for the rest of the game

gl with that one

[skitter30]

really? I don't TR kaji at all, only after all the talk about how if we no lim and there's no vig we lose the mis lim, has kaji decided "oh yes. lets no lim!!"

i feel ike they're way too all over the place to be having these thought processes as scum
there's too much re-evaling that doesn't need to happen

pedit was that 'idk' to me or kaiji

[catboi]

me, opening up flow iso and feeling townvibes from him:

I am not surre how you feel anything from flow

Hello pls

[skitter30]

also fwiw if alyssa happens to be a goon that probably confirms mare as town

[Andante]

idk

I guess I'm a non-content poster then

I mean, I think you're bleeding town, I've seen a lot from you I've really liked, but around here, my thoughts don't mean too much

[Kaiji]

me, opening up flow iso and feeling townvibes from him:

I am not surre how you feel anything from flow

Hello pls

i dont care about snipes about what im posting

post original content

u have 1 conf scum from your pov, where is the indication that you are solving anything from that pov

[Alyssa The Lamb]

My prevailing thought regarding no kill is that Enchant, if scum, just claims a guilty on a town, the scumteam kill whatever town is most likely to see through the deception, and they just need to convince whatever other towns are left that they're right and they're simply home free

and i guess from your pov, can you answer the following questoins plz:

- why did mena pick a guilty on catboi
- who is the scumteam most likely to kill?

pedit fair enuf
although i think my trying-ness has kinda slacked off these past irl days, do with that as you will

mena probably picked catboi because it's easy to explain and it's not a slot that most people would be that willing to go to bat for since he's known for his scumgame

who the scumteam is going to kill really depends on who exactly is scum

[catboi]

I am mostly lost as to where the discussion around no elimination is going

I guess I should be looking at other things I just find playing mafia mostly aggravating right now

[catboi]

i dont care about snipes about what im posting

post original content

u have 1 conf scum from your pov, where is the indication that you are solving anything from that pov

That's not a snipe, it's a question ffs

I am trying to get your perspective

[Alyssa The Lamb]

quizá por eso te vas, quizá por eso regresas

vote count 3.5 !

Enchant (3):

Kaiji, catboi, Alyssa The Lamb

Andante (1):

Mare

no execution (1):

Enchant

not voting (4):

Something_Smart, Datisi, skitter30, Andante

9 are alive, and it takes 5 votes to reevaluate someone's considerations. day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-01-30 04:45:00)

other ideas

• did you know that skitter30 is vla on fridays and saturdays?
  
• did you know that datisi is vla on tuesdays and thursdays?
  
• and kaiji is vla until sunday

here's my question for you skitter:

what exactly are scum doing if enchant is town?
what exactly are scum doing if enchant is scum?

[Kaiji]

I am mostly lost as to where the discussion around no elimination is going

I guess I should be looking at other things I just find playing mafia mostly aggravating right now

changed my mind on no lim

VOTE: catboi

[Kaiji]

i dont care about snipes about what im posting

post original content

u have 1 conf scum from your pov, where is the indication that you are solving anything from that pov

That's not a snipe, it's a question ffs

I am trying to get your perspective

solve or die

[catboi]

I mean, Pooky picked 1.. intended to be top of the draft

that is not how that works

There's nothing wrong with pushing Pooky, but the number analysis isn't really damning. If it were, it would also be damning for Datisi, is my point.

I don't TR pooky, you're kinda making it sound like you do? what're your thoughts on Pooky?

I have no read on Pooky beyond "collided = > rand town", I will probably remain that way for quite some time because I have a shite record of reading him.

okay, can you then make a super simple list of "people i think are town, scum, neither"

Sure.
Town - midway, Mare, nsg, Alyssa
Scum - Andante
Neither - skitter, Cakez, catboi, Menalque, Datisi

okay, *why*

Top draft is decently correlated with being scum, her play has done nothing to shake me off of that, scum presumably made two kills and neither was aimed at the top 3 (which I believe is fairly rare? might be worth checking the stats there), she's been playing up how she is a known PR and how much that matters and then she claims under basically zero pressure with zero info, her reaction to the double kill was pretty awkward and may have betrayed knowledge that it was a scum vig, and now she's shading me off of Mena associatives rather than push me directly which may be to avoid OMGUS accusations.

Discussion of pooky/mena from something_smart is basically nothing, which is kind of expect but it ain't great

[skitter30]

quizá por eso te vas, quizá por eso regresas

vote count 3.5 !

Enchant (3):

Kaiji, catboi, Alyssa The Lamb

Andante (1):

Mare

no execution (1):

Enchant

not voting (4):

Something_Smart, Datisi, skitter30, Andante

9 are alive, and it takes 5 votes to reevaluate someone's considerations. day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-01-30 04:45:00)

other ideas

• did you know that skitter30 is vla on fridays and saturdays?
  
• did you know that datisi is vla on tuesdays and thursdays?
  
• and kaiji is vla until sunday

here's my question for you skitter:

what exactly are scum doing if enchant is town?
what exactly are scum doing if enchant is scum?

i have a hard time answering this question because it depends on scum-enchants role and if there's a n3 vig or not, and then i start circling the possibilities and it's hard for me to come to a conclusion because i keep going around and around in circles

this is kinda why i'm having a hard time figuring out what i want to do, there's too many unknowns for me to fully process this rn

thsi may be unhelpful but i'm basically drawing a blank

[Andante]

why is it so hard to yeet enchant? I put enchant e-1 then suddenly no one wants to yeet enchant?

[catboi]

Any tips on how to read Pooky?

Ah, I know how to solve this!

Pooky, are you scum?

Alright Pooky is acting like Pooky, so my conclusion is that Pooky is either Town or Scum, but not both and not anything else. (I kinda like post 424, but is borderline NAI)

I like Dats opening tone wise; the skitter rsv thing carried on too long for my liking, though and that pings me the wrong way. 120 is kinda good imo since scum would likely be more aware of what they are doing that could be suspicious. 166 does sound genuine to me so I think it also pings me town, but not by much. Dats, I'm gonna need a better explanation on the 274 vote cause I feel like you need more considering how you said the numbers made me less likely to be scum earlier. Scum would prolly elaborate on 594. I was gonna call 670 scummy since it felt kind of self-saving, but rereading, it's not as bad as I thought. Skimming after ~700, but Dats seems to be giving an "are you serious" tone which I equate to being more towny. - TR

how much should I care that Menalque basically hopped onto the same wagon on me despite my slot being his apparently third strongest scumread?

Something_Smart

Datisi
skitter30

SirCakez

Sleepless Assassin
Andante
innocentvillager

catboi

Alyssa The Lamb flow trap
northsidegal
Mare

Menalque PookyTheMagicalBear
midwaybear

Faker

This feels like a comfy solve

Datisi

skitter30

Andante

Kaiji northsidegal

Something_Smart
SirCakez
catboi
Mare
Menalque PookyTheMagicalBear
midwaybear

Midwaybear gives the most info on the game itself if flipped
SirCakez is a slot I think will have to be flipped at some point, so is a safe option for future sanity reasons
catboi is the single slot most likely to be turned on for paranoia reasons, so is a safe option even though I don't think it's very productive atm
S_S mostly is just a slot I struggle to read, nowadays I'm a little more confident I will be able to read him correctly over time since I think the game won't be stagnant like it was early in the day forever, so I'm not really into it
Mare/Menalque are the lazy way out kills that will have to be sorted somehow eventually but it gives us borderline nothing to kill today

Mare/Menalque are the lazy way out kills that will have to be sorted somehow eventually but it gives us borderline nothing to kill today

just realized this looks weird

we get basically nothing from flipping either of them

alright well

whatever I guess

VOTE: Menalque

just stating for the record that I still don't think this gets us anywhere regardless of the flip though

1. Something_Smart
   
   Datisi
   skitter30
   
   Andante
   
   catboi
   
   Alyssa The Lamb
   
   Kaiji
   
   Mare
   
   Menalque

Menalque really needs to do something

then look at the slots that did nothing

ngl I think that borderline confscums Menalque

eh Kaiji can wait actually

VOTE: Menalque

flow had kind of a weird thing with pooky in day 1 and made a non-read read on him, and I hate the "no info" excuses from alyssa w/r/t menalque because I feel like it's avoiding making any real judgment on the slot

[catboi]

why is it so hard to yeet enchant? I put enchant e-1 then suddenly no one wants to yeet enchant?

that has been my feeling more or less this whole game