Oh thanks I forgot about this. Does either of you two want to explain this, or nah?In post 4172, Galron wrote:This seems importantIn post 3903, The Three Bears wrote:bruh. are we really gonna do this.In post 3901, mastina wrote:I didn't claim that I was molded until after you made this post.
Howwwwwwww did you know I was molded before I said I was molded?
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In post 83, Dunnstral wrote:So this is how shelly plays as townIn post 100, Dunnstral wrote:That's attributing a strength to my read that I haven't expressedIn post 105, Dunnstral wrote:
Post 83 has me expressing a read, but nowhere do I make mention of the strength of the read. I certainly don't say I'm fully confident, or one-hundred percent certain on my read.In post 101, nopointinactingup wrote:Still trying to wrap my head around that but no luck .. Need a linguist here. Sounds more like it’s coming from someone who has prior knowledge that Shelly is town.
Post 101 seems to be a separate accusation, after the explanation I gave in posts 97, 99, 100.
There is no explanation of how my post 83 is:
Post 101 looks to me like you received your answer, but you don't want to back off, so you came up with a new reason to push me.coming from someone who has prior knowledge that Shelly is town.In post 106, Dunnstral wrote:
When did I ever do this here?In post 104, unwnd wrote:Pointedly self-assured and unwilling to compromise for his own ideals
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Literally town dunn could not care LESS if i were tunneled him and he were town. But look at his posts. He's literally saying as little as possible just so I won't have much to say about them. He literally would just be like "Noraa is just being stupid" or something like that if he were town.
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I don't have any info worth sharing or that would be helpful.In post 4116, Dunnstral wrote:
I'm picking up what you are putting down but don't understand this partIn post 4110, Dunnstral wrote:Did you target Tet last night?
NGL, I have no experience with the flavor, so I thought it was a magic Polaroid camera (because of the name and because it looks like a camera shutter) when I first got my role PM lol. I figured my flavor claim would be meh until I looked it up on the wiki and found out she was actually a fairly important character. I think everyone pretty much figures that the Hiss are the evil team in this set up, so there's no reason to believe Polaris wouldn't be in the game.In post 4117, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Oh Polaris. That’s like the entity of good or something in Control.
Like the major force of good that fights against the Hiss that possesses the objects of power and turns them evil.
At this point, you're either terrible at reading emotions or you're scum.In post 4115, Save The Dragons wrote:Sorry you feel that way roden
Imagine proving yourself wrong and having to move the goal posts by saying "well you didn't interact with him enough" lmao. You literally did not play the game the entire first day, and your interactions with Ircher are minimal to non-existent. By your logic, you're confscum.In post 4112, Malakittens wrote:You mean ircher basically had your name in majority of his posts an ISO + ctrl + f will deliver a result of "42" times between his posts/others & posts that were made by you.
However when you are ISO. Granted when you do find yours it comes out to be 77, but here are any direct posts with ircher
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sorry bro not convinced.
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it doesn't change the fact i scum read you for things that other people are scumreading you for and yet you wanna target me for some reason
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Mala have you legitimately never seen a townie predict a fake claim ever in your entire life? This can't be a real accusation.In post 4113, Malakittens wrote:
This post is also bugging the shit out of meIn post 2064, Roden wrote:Oh nice, Catboi's in and already towning it up.
@Nora:I think we should still elim Ircher since he still has a pretty high chance of flipping red, even now he still won't address the reads on him and he isn't scum hunting. If he flips town, I think it's still a good info flip and we won't have people tunneled on a slot that isn't doing all that much.
Also heavily disagree about sending investigative roles to check Ircher. I do agree with the reasoning but we definitely shouldn't call out who the investigative roles target, if scum have a Watcher then they'll easily find town PRs..
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I'll take Context Refinement for 500.In post 4175, Cephrir wrote:
Oh thanks I forgot about this. Does either of you two want to explain this, or nah?In post 4172, Galron wrote:
This seems importantIn post 3903, The Three Bears wrote:
bruh. are we really gonna do this.In post 3901, mastina wrote:I didn't claim that I was molded until after you made this post.
Howwwwwwww did you know I was molded before I said I was molded?
In post 3813, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:ugh mastinas such a fuckin nothin slot. i got no read there n i sure dont like it but ugh.In post 3818, The Three Bears wrote:idk about mastina. i dont feel good about that slot but i also dont feel bad about it?
-noraaIn post 3820, The Three Bears wrote:im curious why no one has gotten molded since. i think it means that its a scum role because it doesn't make sense for town to have a 1 shot power to give us mold. it feels to me like the mold is some sort of like role checker or something thats not a kill now. because we really should be dead even if it was a delayed kill by now?
idk im horrible at mech
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Sheer luck is my answer Alex.In post 3823, The Three Bears wrote:
why would they mold the t3 slot though.In post 3821, Save The Dragons wrote:they could have molded dead people too
theres no reason to mold mastina if she's dying.
unless mold is a role stealer? that would be funny actually but it doesn't feel like the right vibe.
i dont think so. it seems like a 1 shot scum role thats utterly useless
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This is such a scummy post.In post 3820, The Three Bears wrote:im curious why no one has gotten molded since. i think it means that its a scum role because it doesn't make sense for town to have a 1 shot power to give us mold. it feels to me like the mold is some sort of like role checker or something thats not a kill now. because we really should be dead even if it was a delayed kill by now?
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That means dick to explain 3823.In post 4186, The Three Bears wrote:Do tell, we god Mold'd D1, and no one else claimed it until Mastina did.
it's speculation on unknown mechanic.
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Ok this is just blatantly false and I think you caught yourself out with this post. This reverse uno shit with "you wanna target me for some reason" is obvious AtE and is actual gaslighting. You're trying to make me question my sanity and make me look unreasonable. You're discounting the fact that you've been attacking me since the start of the game and nitpicking damn near everything I say, even abandoning the Ircher wagon once it picked up steam at the beginning of Day 1 to try to wagon me instead. No one else has done this, and anyone who has scum read me has at least tried to actually read me with nuance. Everything you've said about me though has had zero nuance and has been extremely uncharitable every single time.In post 4181, Save The Dragons wrote:
you can spit vitriol at me all you wantIn post 4180, Roden wrote:At this point, you're either terrible at reading emotions or you're scum.
it doesn't change the fact i scum read you for things that other people are scumreading you for and yet you wanna target me for some reason
so again i'm sorry you feel that way but it doesn't change the fact that i think you could be scum. it's a game of mafia, people get accused of being scum that's how it goes
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where have you said that as townIn post 1335, Roden wrote:I also said that in town games, so we already know that's NAI. What else?In post 1343, Roden wrote:
If I hunt through my town games to quote every instance of this, would it actually change your mind or would I be wasting my time?In post 1337, Save The Dragons wrote:
where have you said that as townIn post 1335, Roden wrote:I also said that in town games, so we already know that's NAI. What else?
This was the only time you even attempted to engage with me on how I could be town, and even then it just turned into a thinly veiled gotcha attempt. It felt like you weren't actually expecting me to bring receipts, and you never responded or try to engage with me further on this. Why did you ask me to provide games if you were just going to completely disregard them? This is exactly what I mean when I say you aren't trying to engage with me honestly or in good faith.In post 1349, Roden wrote:
Me vs scum shit pushing me after they got caught.In post 191, Roden wrote:Honestly LQ why are you scum reading me at all when you've recently seen two of my scum games in depth? You should know this isn't it from my opening posts alone.
Can't quote from Scarlet Witch but you can just see my ISO there. I die Day 1 to a bunch of townies shit casing me and calling me guaranteed scum based on vibes. I also catch scum but I get called scummy and told my read is wrong, said scum read proceeds to endgame town and win.
Same with Chrono Trigger since it's also locked. Day 1 is rough again and I pretty thoroughly explain my meta to Noraa. She's been defending me so much this game exactly because of that game.
This game was extra fun because I had nearly the entire player list on my ass for most of the game, with three townies Gamma Galron and Penguin hard tunneling me. I still got fear killed by scum though.In post 390, Roden wrote:
...Except he didn't push his reads, and he got voted out for it. Do you actually think giving up and accepting his mis-elim was the optimal play here? Because the reason he got voted was exactly because of that. He was focused more on teasing quick hammers than actually scum hunting.In post 379, Gamma Emerald wrote:
It means his vibes this game are terrible. Pretty much every time I've faced scum!Roden he's pinged me a certain way, and his comment about Enchant not pushing his reads hit that note.In post 365, Galron wrote:What does that mean he failed the vibe check?
Also I'm just taking this stance from you as that you're either scum fake vibe checking me, or you're town and admitting that you don't actually know how to read me at all. I'm not nearly this aggressive and active as scum, and I would never try to inject life into a dead game. I also wouldn't ever try to give Enchant a chance to save himself by giving him as many outs as I did.
You're free to show examples comparing my actions this game to past scum games though.
Then why are you voting me on vibes and not Kyouko when you scum read her through meta?In post 381, Gamma Emerald wrote:
they can both be scumIn post 373, PenguinPower wrote:
?In post 340, Gamma Emerald wrote:But I do think kyouko hasn’t made much of a splash and might be scum as a result if enchant is town.
No idea tbh. Which is probably the point, it's a low info kill in a low info game. Scum probably just got lucky with Mozamis being a PR.In post 380, Almost50 wrote:Can anyone explain why Moz was the kill here? I don't see a crumb in his ISO, I don't think he made any serious reads, and I don't think he was globally TR'd even.
Probably don't need to go into detail with this one.In post 1553, Roden wrote:
WIFOM + I've fake softed a role D1 before. Alternatively, scum has a Rolecop or something else that can check for specific roles, and they decided checking me first was a good idea.In post 1550, T3 wrote:I don't know why scum didn't kill Roden but he's still locktown.
"Don't have to" lol I was never going to. He literally could not force me to claim. If I'm not at E-1, I don't have to claim, and he certainly wasn't gonna make that kind of push considering T3 was his only scum read and he did nothing to try to get him elim'd.In post 1551, Save The Dragons wrote:
i mean he was gonna try to get you to claim todayIn post 1549, Roden wrote:
Off the hook how? I was gonna push sb9 next.In post 1544, Save The Dragons wrote:what if scum killed sb9 to let scumbuddy roden off the hook
or is that too paranoid
now you don't have to
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
StD you're really not doing a lot to convince me you're town anymore because you already know my scum thought process. This isn't it, and your shade attempts on me don't look good.
Do you need more?
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You claim this but earlier you'd said the complete opposite.In post 3192, Save The Dragons wrote:if ircher flipped town i would have thought you were town from it
Like you're just straight up caught in a lie here.In post 560, Save The Dragons wrote:
this read list sucks it leaves a lot to be desiredIn post 517, Roden wrote:Bears, LLD, Cephrir, Mastina, Norwe, Tet are all most likely town.
Greeting, Galron, STD, Ircher, Mush contains at least a few scum. My vote stopped being RVS btw.
the phrase "contains a few scum" feels fake
your vote for greeting is weird it comes with no explanation but you stopped being RVS (tbf you explain it later, but i hate it too so...)
you stick Ircher on there but don't want to vote him because you want to look like you're in agreement with the consensus but are waiting until later to actually be like "i guess we'll go ircher" it's making me think ircher might be town and you're scum
There's also this exchange where you kept trying to argue Ircher and I were ignoring each other until we did some scum theatre, but even Tet steps in and says that's incorrect. You ignore them though and continue to attack me with the same case. Tet dies immediately afterward and their voice goes unheard.In post 3114, Tet wrote:
I would be more likely to say its theater if it was just a day 2 thing but they've been trading jabs both days.In post 3112, Save The Dragons wrote:i'm going to be a stick in the mud, ircher was going down like a sinking ship the only person who didn't think ircher was going down was andante for some reason
it was just a matter of whether ircher was town or scum. i actually thought he was going to flip town at the end of the day. the fact that he flipped scum changes a few things. it means people defending him probably were town unaware he was going to flip red (andante, Twie) and that some people who were heavily trying to drag him down were bussing him (roden).
what if ircher ignored roden because they're scumbuddies.In post 2810, Roden wrote:I was hoping someone would notice this first. Ircher has been ignoring most people who try to case him, only ever replying to people he thinks are easy to out-argue.
This is a really weird reason to sr ircherIn post 2821, Roden wrote:Anyway the real reason Ircher is scum here is because there is a 100% chance we have a Voyeur and/or a Watcher and there's no way they don't sit on Ircher N1 to catch a Roleblocker. But no one's stepping forward to vouch for Ircher besides I guess Andante, who just claimed VT.
Like throughout this entire game you attack me and ignore any and all evidence that points to me being town so you can frame the narrative to make me look scummy. And all the while you keep threatening to vote me out while pushing else where, and supporting town mis-elims while defending the Ircher slot. You shaded me for scum reading him but not yet voting him at game start, and then you shaded me for scum casing him and trying to get people to vote him. You've gone out of your way to put me down whenever you can and then used Ceph's loyalty to you to back you up and fight your battles for you whenever I pushed you into a corner.
When I say I town read you solely for your tone, I really do mean that. Everything else you've done has been scummy and at this point I think my earlier read of you was just wrong. You've been coasting on the fact that I've town read you knowing that I won't hit back at you so that you could say whatever you wanted without consequences, but you've just made too many mistakes and uncharitable takes that I just don't think you're town anymore.
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It just means evidence or proof.In post 4192, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
I don’t even know what that means.In post 4191, Galron wrote:Can we fucking lose the phrase "bring receipts" yet?
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