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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:43 pm

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In post 1347, House wrote:
In post 1345, Frogsterking wrote:if u can't answer i will drop it no mean to pressure
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:44 pm

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In post 1348, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1344, House wrote:So, either VP is scum clearing a townie that was set up to be an easy target for shade due to A50's d1, or he's town pr that checked a player he was crowing as scum at the end of d1 & flipped his read on d2 after getting his result.

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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:44 pm

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In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:45 pm

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In post 1351, House wrote:
In post 1348, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1344, House wrote:So, either VP is scum clearing a townie that was set up to be an easy target for shade due to A50's d1, or he's town pr that checked a player he was crowing as scum at the end of d1 & flipped his read on d2 after getting his result.

Stay tuned!
Nope. I think I get the vibe. I don’t think this is worth getting into now. If you townread me, trust me enough to say let’s not poke this and pretend we did.
If people are going to soft like an anvil, I'm just going to bring it to the fore because if I caught it when I don't even look for these things, I know scum already knows.
Cool. Keep looking for a blacksmith that doesn’t exist.
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:45 pm

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In post 1350, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1347, House wrote:
In post 1345, Frogsterking wrote:if u can't answer i will drop it no mean to pressure
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You just wasted a ton of screen real estate on my phone just to give the person you're addressing an easy out to ignore all of that text.
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:46 pm

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In post 1352, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
What about Ari's vibe?
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:47 pm

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In post 1352, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
I think you should do some actual meta research if you are going to use vibe-reads.
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:48 pm

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In post 1356, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1352, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
I think you should do some actual meta research if you are going to use vibe-reads.
Now now, let's not expect unrealistic things like logic and rationale.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:48 pm

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In post 1355, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1352, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
What about Ari's vibe?
I’ve never had a game with town Ari or at least the town Ari account so more getting a sense.

I promise to share reads when I have them.

If I have to put them in a town block I would but I am not sure how far that would roll and it would depend on a few things if I understand them right.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:49 pm

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In post 1356, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1352, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
I think you should do some actual meta research if you are going to use vibe-reads.
I tend to go more off of the vibes of a game and who matches it. A competent scum player can fake meta reads.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:50 pm

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yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:59 pm

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In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:02 pm

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In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:03 pm

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In post 1362, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
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Ari: Says correct thing
Mathblade: egoegoego
Sounds like you're describing town!Math.
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:04 pm

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In post 1363, House wrote:
In post 1362, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
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Ari: Says correct thing
Mathblade: egoegoego
Sounds like you're describing town!Math.
I kind of think so.
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:05 pm

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In post 1362, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
In other words:

Ari: Says correct thing
Mathblade: egoegoego
It’s not ego it’s playstyle difference
I am on the spectrum so trying to be neurotypical leads to fights
So instead I hunt in my own way
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:06 pm

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In post 1365, MathBlade wrote:I am on the spectrum so trying to be neurotypical leads to fights
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:10 pm

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In post 1365, MathBlade wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 1362, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
In other words:

Ari: Says correct thing
Mathblade: egoegoego


It’s not ego it’s playstyle difference
I am on the spectrum so trying to be neurotypical leads to fights
So instead I hunt in my own way
Like by vibing you mean the context of how a player would be acting based on the stage of the game, what they're trying to achieve, and how their posts are going after achieving that goal? As opposed to the emotional tone and syntax of their post?
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:12 pm

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In post 1367, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1365, MathBlade wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 1362, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
In other words:

Ari: Says correct thing
Mathblade: egoegoego


It’s not ego it’s playstyle difference
I am on the spectrum so trying to be neurotypical leads to fights
So instead I hunt in my own way
Like by vibing you mean the context of how a player would be acting based on the stage of the game, what they're trying to achieve, and how their posts are going after achieving that goal? As opposed to the emotional tone and syntax of their post?
Correct. That’s like most of it yeah.
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:13 pm

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Like VP makes sense to be scum on paper so I expect scum to be pushing VP regardless of VP’s alignment.

So unless VP town tells if scum game is over fast. But if VP isn’t scum it’s a safe place to hide.

So once I figure out the motivations it points to scum.
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:17 pm

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In post 1369, MathBlade wrote:Like VP makes sense to be scum on paper so I expect scum to be pushing VP regardless of VP’s alignment.

So unless VP town tells if scum game is over fast. But if VP isn’t scum it’s a safe place to hide.

So once I figure out the motivations it points to scum.
This is making sense to me.
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:18 pm

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In post 1370, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1369, MathBlade wrote:Like VP makes sense to be scum on paper so I expect scum to be pushing VP regardless of VP’s alignment.

So unless VP town tells if scum game is over fast. But if VP isn’t scum it’s a safe place to hide.

So once I figure out the motivations it points to scum.
This is making sense to me.
I was not really thinking about it from that point of view, but maybe I should have been.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:31 pm

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I am just weird lol. :P If you know Titus I am her brother
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:35 pm

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In post 1247, MathBlade wrote:
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In post 1014, House wrote:
In post 1012, Frogsterking wrote:tl;dr :
Don't give a shit.

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Can't say you weren't warned.

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Softed on page 1 & my reads list (same green color code for me and iv, different code for other hard townreads). Interactions between us show familiarity when I've never been in a game with them. They call me town but don't justify it, unlike their other townreads.

iv didn't want me to out on d1 and one of our earlier public interactions was him trying to discourage me from it when I mentioned in Mason chat that it would suck to out early.

Your chainsaw came back to bite you in the ass. Lap & Frog are scum together.


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