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[House]

was anyone actually thinking a50's slot was cleared because of the force-repout? i sure wasn't

I actually felt it was

too

tryhard to self clear, because staying away at night is trivial if scum has daytalk.

[House]

Setup

The setup for this game is a closed mini normal. The following information about the setup is known:

• The mafia have daytalk.
  
  
• The mafia do
  not
  have multitasking.

Sample VT Role PM:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.
You have no abilities.

You win when there are no mafia aligned players alive and there is at least one town aligned player still alive. Please confirm by summarizing your role to the moderator.

[Something_Smart]

Scum don't play along with fake Mason claims.

Evidence?

[Datisi]

s_s, have you done a single ai thing this game?

[VP Baltar]

s_s, have you done a single ai thing this game?

^real talk

[Datisi]

baltar, how do you feel about my skitter vote?

[OutWorldER]

right, D2 started at a bad time for me, trying to catch up while tired, my thoughts will probably be really scattered.

I think VPB's posting today is bad but in the "town who is overly paranoid" kinda bad and his claimed info on A50/Math means there's no reason to lim him today regardless.
I fundamentally disagree with I_V being given a townpass for the mason claim, I think House is all but conftown but I've been in a situation before where town fakeclaims and accidentally clears a scum (in the same game I was with Frogster) and really would not enjoy a repeat of that.

[Something_Smart]

s_s, have you done a single ai thing this game?

Probably.

[Frogsterking]

right, D2 started at a bad time for me, trying to catch up while tired, my thoughts will probably be really scattered.

I think VPB's posting today is bad but in the "town who is overly paranoid" kinda bad and his claimed info on A50/Math means there's no reason to lim him today regardless.
I fundamentally disagree with I_V being given a townpass for the mason claim, I think House is all but conftown but I've been in a situation before where town fakeclaims and accidentally clears a scum (in the same game I was with Frogster) and really would not enjoy a repeat of that.

This is true actually, I hadn't thought of it from that point of view. Compared to how it went in that game, I think House is smarter than Ejji, but equally as impulsive, so the same situation I could see happening.

[VP Baltar]

baltar, how do you feel about my skitter vote?

It's on the table for me. I want to reread skitt today and see how I feel about it independently

[Frogsterking]

Does S_S normally seem apathetic and with slight antipathy in their town meta?

[OutWorldER]

Skitter and VP are the only ones I realistically could see killing RTP, and I already explained why I think VP is town/no reason to lim him today, so Skitter is the only option here I think.

VOTE: Skitter

[Frogsterking]

Probably nothing but I wanted to fly it by others. I've used this apathetic with slight antipathy tell thing to screen scum before out of the nulls over livechat. I'm guessing this is in line with S_S usual town play but I want to hear it from someone who knows since it seems like many have played with him before.

I just grabbed these from S_S iso that show the tone I'm referring to:

Spoiler:

Man, when I hoped that discussion would pick up in this game, this is

not

what I had in mind.

RTP with your avi you simultaneously make me think you're pooky and ducky and I hate this feeling

i had a dream i was modding a dance game and s_s flipped red, and the final 4 was peta/ydrasse and pooky/gypyx and gypyx was scum, but i didn't mod the game properly from that point on and i got permabanned. anyway this game yes

I actually burst out laughing.

I'm sorry your subconscious is mean to you in such an amusing way.

Did you read my Lap case 592?

I read part of it. Pretty much nothing you've said so far has resonated with me, and I don't generally find cases convincing, so I wasn't expecting it to do much for me.

SS, you going to vote someone at somepoint?

Probably not. The person I would vote is Lap, but that wagon probably goes through before I'd like to end the day.

Sorry that I spoiled you spoiling the game.

And wrt rtp, his reasoning feels very opaque to me, and i dont really understand his reads

I feel this way about everyone, so it doesn't bother me anymore. (Also, *they)

Is it in SS town meta to not vote anyone or FoS people and try to pocket multiple players?

Yes

Sometimes townies do things that don't appear to have a good reason. Sometimes they legitimately don't have a good reason, and sometimes they have one that you just can't see.

I'm kind of insulted that Koba thinks I'm this easy to read.

Then again, I guess it isn't that different from when people thought I was definitely town for my end-of-predance antics in Holiday Dance Party. They don't really mean it.

Eventually you learn to tune it out.

I care!

But I'm a nobody, so I guess that checks out.

Probably not. The person I would vote is Lap, but that wagon probably goes through before I'd like to end the day.

Also hey, look who's psychic

I'm gonna have to reread this while more awake but

How did y'all make like 7 pages while I was asleep and the only thing worth responding to is that MathBlade thinks a statistical likelihood is profound

And this person was????

I would have to do a lot of unpleasant reading to have a chance of answering this, but looking for people who jumped on the Lap wagon pretty early is probably a good start.

I'm afraid reading is going to be required at this point unfortunately

Guess I'm getting detention, then.

s_s, have you done a single ai thing this game?

Probably.

I guess the tell that I observed in the past may be that the scum hiding in the nulls is pulling off an apathetic townie thing but they're being a little consistently microaggressive and it's standing out. Not sure if that's applicable here with S_S.

[OutWorldER]

I mean, yeah, S_S has been apathetic, to the point that he has not made a single vote this entire game and consistently dances around major events/wagons. He's active lurking through and through.

I absolutely want to kill S_S at some point but I think Skitter is better today.

[Datisi]

Skitter and VP are the only ones I realistically could see killing RTP

why do you think this?

[VP Baltar]

I think VPB's posting today is bad

What is bad in your view?

[House]

s_s, have you done a single ai thing this game?

RTP thought so.

[Something_Smart]

Does S_S normally seem apathetic and with slight antipathy in their town meta?

Yes

[Something_Smart]

RTP thought so.

I'm pretty sure that was mostly just false confidence/reaction testing. I would make that post as scum.

[House]

RTP thought so.

I'm pretty sure that was mostly just false confidence/reaction testing. I would make that post as scum.

All the same, I'm sheeping it.

[Datisi]

i'm not sure if i like the fact that s_s apparently only wants to comment on math using math wrong, when i feel like he's lowkey misrepping the "this group of 5 probs has scum in it" argument. like it felt to me that math was saying that it's likely there's scum in it *because* they're voting together in rvs (which is not something i agree with but whatever) and s_s had to butt in with "well achckually that's true for any group of 5" ok cool do you have any actual opinions on the game?

like i know s_s isn't big on Producing Solves and stuff like that, but we've had a scumflip, a retracted claim, a newly made claim, do you have Any thoughts on people's alignments here??

[Datisi]

When the night started, actually even before then, I was wondering about something very curious. It basically became common knowledge in this game that Lap was flipping scum. There is no way that anyone can justifiably be that confident D1; some of it came from Koba, but I feel like there was someone on the scumteam who was highly in tune with the game and was basically telling Lap "you're dead, stop posting".

As I say this I realize I should check daytalk, but... it was almost surreal the way scum-Lap was just beamed into everyone's brains like it was Star Trek.

ok i guess this post was technically A Thought. but like, only half a point because it talks in abstracts and reaches no conclusions.

[Datisi]

i was gonna write "mathblade calling me/vp t/t while we were fighting probably means he's town, unless he is scum with exactly baltar" and then i remembered lmao

[Something_Smart]

like it felt to me that math was saying that it's likely there's scum in it *because* they're voting together in rvs (which is not something i agree with but whatever) and s_s had to butt in with "well achckually that's true for any group of 5"

Maybe I wasn't clear but yes that's how I interpreted it, I'm just saying it's nonsense.

[Something_Smart]

like i know s_s isn't big on Producing Solves and stuff like that, but we've had a scumflip, a retracted claim, a newly made claim, do you have Any thoughts on people's alignments here??

I will eventually. I'm pretty busy this weekend, sorry.