CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[Save The Dragons]

are we just ignoring 4419

[Roden]

I was hoping someone would notice this first. Ircher has been ignoring most people who try to case him, only ever replying to people he thinks are easy to out-argue.

does ircher ignore you at the beginning of day 2 or not

you're the one who accused him of ignoring you, so why am i suddenly the one who's "caught" saying he was ignoring you

???

I'm literally referring to myself there

Who the hell do you think I'm talking about?

[Save The Dragons]

that's the point

you say ircher is ignoring you

i also say ircher is ignoring you

[Save The Dragons]

There's also this exchange where you kept trying to argue Ircher and I were ignoring each other

[Save The Dragons]

ta da

[Roden]

if you're town i want to shake you

you signed up for a mafia game

you get scumread in mafia games

it happens

i apologized twice for how you're feeling because i'm not intending to make you feel bad

i like gnosia and think your raqio avatar is neat

but that's the way it is

nowhere am i making you question your sanity that's absurd

and if you're scum miss me with that shit

I don't give a shit that I'm getting scum read, how do you not understand this?? I've explained so many fucking times what my issue with your scum case on me is. I've gone into the exact details why I have problems with your case specifically. You've brushed me off at every single turn and quite literally wasted my time making me dig up games and examples from months ago just for you to disregard them. Every time I try to present anything to you your only response is "ok but you're still scum", no one else has done this. Literally every other person who's scum read me actually gave a reason that wasn't "just trust me" or a theory. Even Ceph has had moments of reconsideration despite our back and forths, or maybe because of them.

You're doing that thing again where you're moving the goal posts instead of just admitting you're wrong.

like you've never done this in this game mr. "they're not aligned oops takesybacksy"

So why are you allowed to reconsider your reads but I'm not?

You're doing that thing again where you're moving the goal posts instead of just admitting you're wrong. You went from "you ignored each other" to "well you ignored each other at first and then bussed him at the last second" to "idk why you can't be bussing him both days". Like you're blatantly just trying to fit the pieces together to frame my actions as scummy. I'm scum if I didn't bus and I'm scum if I did. I'm scum if Ircher flips green and I'm scum if he flips red. You aren't trying to read me.

nah man if ircher flipped green i would have town read you it's a fact whether you can grasp that or not is up to you

that's where i was at at the end of the day

people can be fluid with their thinking dude

Again, why are you allowed to walk that back without even mentioning that you had, especially since it's a pretty massive read change, but I get hard scum read for clarifying a scum read? Do you not see the hypocrisy here?

[Roden]

that's the point

you say ircher is ignoring you

i also say ircher is ignoring you

There's also this exchange where you kept trying to argue Ircher and I were ignoring each other

I'M THE ONE IRCHER WHO THOUGHT WAS EASY TO OUT ARGUE

ME

I CANNOT MAKE THIS ANY MORE CLEAR

[Roden]

In other news, Roden just dropped several percentage points with how he's spinning things here.

Except he’s referring to me who said it first and you didn’t bat an eye

That's not true. I just didn't comment; not everything is worth it at the time. Also, the specifics matter here. You called me out for my initial reaction. Roden is calling me out for providing the standard answer to a question that has a standard answer on this site. That's very different; the former is a good faith engagement even if I disagree. The latter is just incredibly bad faith. You both agree the claim is fake; that's fine, sure; however, the way you reach that conclusion matters, and the way Roden is reaching that conclusion is really iffy compared to yours.

In other news, Roden just dropped several percentage points with how he's spinning things here.

Except he’s referring to me who said it first and you didn’t bat an eye

I was hoping someone would notice this first. Ircher has been ignoring most people who try to case him,

only ever replying to people he thinks are easy to out-argue.

[Save The Dragons]

then i misunderstood what you were trying to say

[Save The Dragons]

So why are you allowed to reconsider your reads but I'm not?

that wasn't a reconsidering of a read you were asked to clarify what you meant and you couldn't even do it

Again, why are you allowed to walk that back without even mentioning that you had, especially since it's a pretty massive read change, but I get hard scum read for clarifying a scum read? Do you not see the hypocrisy here?

are you scum reading me for allegedly walking back? i guess you're not because that would be hypocritical

[catboi]

is dunn hammered yet

[Save The Dragons]

im fine with that but i got into another fight

[The Three Bears]

roden theres free towncred. vote dunn.

-noraa

[Roden]

I just went back and counted the votes, I think Dunn is at E-1. Are we done talking for today? And do we want a claim first before I hammer?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes we should wait for claim.

[catboi]

UNVOTE:

w/e

[Andante]

dunn time? bye bye dunn!!!
VOTE: Dunn

[The Three Bears]

dunn, claim.

-noraa

[The Three Bears]

you are at e-1 with intent to hammer from catboi.

-noraa

[Andante]

dunn is gonna be a non consecutive night friendly neighbor!!

[The Three Bears]

scum team's got a lot of FNs this game o-o

-noraa

[Andante]

they're all so friendly!!!

[Bell]

My sense of justice tells me that the best outcome is that andante, three bears and dunnstrall arr all town making it super embarassingt what they’re saying right now.

But justice is a voice I have no faith in and never listen to.

[Andante]

My sense of justice tells me that the best outcome is that andante, three bears and dunnstrall arr all town making it super embarassingt what they’re saying right now.

But justice is a voice I have no faith in and never listen to.

why couldn't we get tictac here?

[Andante]

that would be my top pick, but dunn is a close 2nd