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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:23 am

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In post 2147, House wrote:
In post 2145, MathBlade wrote:Sorry I don’t know what that means.

And yeah Datisi I wanted a direct claim because if House was reaction testing which he is known to do then if an actual vig CC’d him there would be problems. So House inno means protectives (if they exist) can be on him.

So he’s a double voter.

I die due to inno and House gets two days to do whatever he wants.
I'm macho, so a protective targeting me would be wasted, unfortunately.
Damn it :(

Stop giving scum ideas :(

I was trying to buy you another day of double vote
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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:24 am

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In post 2148, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2143, Something_Smart wrote:So now I'm a bit curious why Math didn't immediately jump to "Datisi is scum, OWER was the scum kill, and House is Datisi's partner covering for him"
Because 1) House crumbed vig
2) That gets caught when there is no vig claim and House isn’t silly.
I'm offended.

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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:24 am

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In post 2150, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2147, House wrote:
In post 2145, MathBlade wrote:Sorry I don’t know what that means.

And yeah Datisi I wanted a direct claim because if House was reaction testing which he is known to do then if an actual vig CC’d him there would be problems. So House inno means protectives (if they exist) can be on him.

So he’s a double voter.

I die due to inno and House gets two days to do whatever he wants.
I'm macho, so a protective targeting me would be wasted, unfortunately.
Damn it :(

Stop giving scum ideas :(

I was trying to buy you another day of double vote
I'm not going to waste a PR on me.

That would be yet another thing to piss people off.
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:25 am

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In post 2151, House wrote:
In post 2148, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2143, Something_Smart wrote:So now I'm a bit curious why Math didn't immediately jump to "Datisi is scum, OWER was the scum kill, and House is Datisi's partner covering for him"
Because 1) House crumbed vig
2) That gets caught when there is no vig claim and House isn’t silly.
I'm offended.

Of course I'm silly!
Nah you aren’t.

Twilight Imperium says otherwise dude. You got some strategy in you.
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:26 am

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Either way Something Smart is scum

Everyone should vote him :)

Because House :)
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:26 am

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In post 2153, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2151, House wrote:
In post 2148, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2143, Something_Smart wrote:So now I'm a bit curious why Math didn't immediately jump to "Datisi is scum, OWER was the scum kill, and House is Datisi's partner covering for him"
Because 1) House crumbed vig
2) That gets caught when there is no vig claim and House isn’t silly.
I'm offended.

Of course I'm silly!
Nah you aren’t.

Twilight Imperium says otherwise dude. You got some strategy in you.
In the right circumstances.

Besides, the 2 aren't mutually exclusive.
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:26 am

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In post 1178, innocentvillager wrote:I think it will be interesting to see who mafia nightkills in the next couple days - if they decide House and I are worth killing over trying to hunt more useful PRs, that might be useful information.
In post 1291, innocentvillager wrote:I'm definitely townreading House for the mason claim, I think it's a really crazy play to make as a pocket

VOTE: VP Baltar

I think RTP being the kill over me and House strongly suggests either me/VP are scum given that we were both in their solve. It's too wifomy of a kill if both me and VP are town and I really don't see why scum wouldn't just let koba deathtunnel town!VP
So say IV is one scum, right? Now look at who andres is signaling to in his case:
In post 2010, Andresvmb wrote:@Datisi why is Frogsterking Town here to you again? Can you walk me through that? Because I’m reading and thinking to myself - how is this not Scum backtracking after pushing a really strong case against Scum in , only to get back on that wagon later? I see one important commonality between the wagon that pushed Laplacian (which I am also inclined to think contained a busser mind you, though why Mathblade insisted so hard in starting there is well beyond me), and the Skitter wagon, and that’s Frogsterking. And how do you make sense of the backtrack after a post like ? It’s funny, it’s not even that subtle - they were really trying to get RTP to move away in .

now reads like Scum just egging on a Town execution, and I think Frogsterking is sidelining the wrong voices in an attempt to pocket certain players (such as Math) and lead down the wrong path. Their vote for Ari around is awful, and then shading there makes no sense. I am truly amazed we’re totally ignoring Frogsterking as potential Scum.

I also read that post by S_S and took the absolute opposite conclusion. I thought it was totally unlike Scum to want to say that Skitter was not in their Town meta there.
Andres knows he is pushing one townie, so he wants the other townies to notice and agree with his case, which he tries to get by townreading them.

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In post 2019, Datisi wrote:i think s_s is the other

if i poweryeet scum today, will you trust me and get math tomorrow
Look I’ve been reading S_S. I’m not seeing S_S Scum. I’m also not going to fully discount the possibility that there are modifiers in the game that might disrupt VPB’s role, and Math has been too stubborn against Ari pushing a mathematical argument that I really don’t buy, but I think the odds point firmly at Math being Town. The odds of VPB hitting a Scum player with a Modifier that protects them from the Weak Disloyal Fruit Vendor (cool role btw) are just not great. And I’m sure you’re not of the thought that the entire Scum Team has modifiers that would shield them from that role (it’s possible one does, and Laplacian did flip Goon, but really?).
Notice how andres in his D3 has mentioned specifically all these players are town: Dat, Math, S_S and Ari. Look at everyone elses posts D3, no one else has done that, the closest is S_S when he said Math, Frog, House can't agree, but S_S is signaled in andres posts, so S_S is probably town.

Andres knows I am town and he needs to get these other townies players on his side, that's why he made all those references along with his case.
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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:27 am

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In post 2154, MathBlade wrote:Either way Something Smart is scum

Everyone should vote him :)

Because House :)
Being a pew pew doesn't make me omniscient.

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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:27 am

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In post 33, Isis wrote:X amount of curveballs is necessary, my mindset is that I've recently read complaints from TM about PP's (essentially normal) setup being easily guessable

If some amount of curveballs are desirable, ones that don't change optimal PR play at all but make the setup harder to guess are very desirable
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:27 am

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andres and frogster are tvt and their mutual shittunnel is going to be very damaging to this town
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:29 am

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In post 2157, House wrote:
In post 2154, MathBlade wrote:Either way Something Smart is scum

Everyone should vote him :)

Because House :)
Being a pew pew doesn't make me omniscient.

But I do believe he's scum.
But being pew pew means no paranoia about you.
If someone else claims pew pew then you are scum.

Would rather cooperate with pew pew and cycle back to Datisi tomorrow
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:29 am

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In post 2160, MathBlade wrote:Would rather cooperate with pew pew and cycle back to Datisi tomorrow
@vpb: *this* is what scum chaining looks like, dude
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:30 am

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In post 2160, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2157, House wrote:
In post 2154, MathBlade wrote:Either way Something Smart is scum

Everyone should vote him :)

Because House :)
Being a pew pew doesn't make me omniscient.

But I do believe he's scum.
But being pew pew means no paranoia about you.
If someone else claims pew pew then you are scum.

Would rather cooperate with pew pew and cycle back to Datisi tomorrow
Nobody cc's pew pew during the day

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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:31 am

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House, you of all people should not be pushing me today.
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:31 am

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In post 2162, House wrote:
In post 2160, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2157, House wrote:
In post 2154, MathBlade wrote:Either way Something Smart is scum

Everyone should vote him :)

Because House :)
Being a pew pew doesn't make me omniscient.

But I do believe he's scum.
But being pew pew means no paranoia about you.
If someone else claims pew pew then you are scum.

Would rather cooperate with pew pew and cycle back to Datisi tomorrow
Nobody cc's pew pew during the day

Duh.
Oh right.
I am like on three hours sleep lmao.
I stayed up for flip then gave up
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:31 am

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In post 2163, Something_Smart wrote:House, you of all people should not be pushing me today.
I'm easily persuaded.

VOTE: iv

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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:32 am

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VOTE: Iv

Double voter duty
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:33 am

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In post 2135, House wrote:
In post 2130, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2120, Datisi wrote:because i am definitely the type of egoistical masochistic asshole to plan a bus on page 8, you got it

i know how weak roles work, that's why i'm calling the inno bullshit

have fun with vig fishing i guess
It’s not fishing.
If there is a vig they should claim who they shot and then become inno
And we do whatever the fuck they want.
Otherwise it’s a guilty on you as there is no vig
Fine, Math.

Hardclaim vig


n1) meant to target frog, pm didn't send but I thought it did. Fucking glitch.
n2) OutworldER

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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:34 am

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*bounces vote around to all players to see where Math stops sheeping*
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:34 am

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In post 2167, Frogsterking wrote:House I think you've only FoSed one scum all game
That's only because my n1 action didn't go through. :(
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 am

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In post 2168, House wrote:*bounces vote around to all players to see where Math stops sheeping*
I do have to get ready for work eventually
But I won’t ever not vote who you’re voting unless it’s hammer or I am AFK
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 am

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In post 2169, House wrote:
In post 2167, Frogsterking wrote:House I think you've only FoSed one scum all game
That's only because my n1 action didn't go through. :(
No it isn't, I was including Lap in my list of your FoS es.
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:36 am

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In post 2159, Datisi wrote:andres and frogster are tvt and their mutual shittunnel is going to be very damaging to this town
How confident are you that it's TvT?
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:37 am

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In post 2171, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2169, House wrote:
In post 2167, Frogsterking wrote:House I think you've only FoSed one scum all game
That's only because my n1 action didn't go through. :(
No it isn't, I was including Lap in my list of your FoS es.
What bullshit is this?
Why are you shading conf town?
There’s only one flipped scum?

Who do you think House should be FoSing?
Keep in mind anything less than a complete solve makes your shade Bs
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:38 am

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In post 2171, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2169, House wrote:
In post 2167, Frogsterking wrote:House I think you've only FoSed one scum all game
That's only because my n1 action didn't go through. :(
No it isn't, I was including Lap in my list of your FoS es.
If I was seriously still scumreading you, you'd have flipped last night. I'm just jerking your chain. :P
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