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Post Post #2375 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:24 pm

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Town role submissions:
- Combined Loyal Doctor/Disloyal Vigilante
- N1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Loyal Neighborizer (homemade Masonizer)
- Bulletproof Friendly Neighbor

Can't imagine why I didn't get any of my picks.
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Post Post #2376 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:25 pm

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In post 2375, House wrote:Town role submissions:
- Combined Loyal Doctor/Disloyal Vigilante
- N1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Loyal Neighborizer (homemade Masonizer)
- Bulletproof Friendly Neighbor

Can't imagine why I didn't get any of my picks.
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Post Post #2377 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:29 pm

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In post 2374, Galron wrote:
In post 2371, House wrote:
In post 2369, Galron wrote:
In post 2364, House wrote:
In post 2362, Galron wrote:I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1
Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.
What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.
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That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.
Occam's led me to the other thing, but okay then.
Lol.

Occam's Razor seriously led you to believe that scum was so worried about Cheeky that they both blocked & NK'ed her?

Yeah, nah.

Cheeky getting blocked by a jailkept target and scum shooting is far simpler than scum rallying all that power against her on n-fucking-1.
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Post Post #2378 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:30 pm

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In post 2376, Enchant wrote:
In post 2375, House wrote:Town role submissions:
- Combined Loyal Doctor/Disloyal Vigilante
- N1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Loyal Neighborizer (homemade Masonizer)
- Bulletproof Friendly Neighbor

Can't imagine why I didn't get any of my picks.
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Post Post #2379 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:32 pm

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Jailkeeping not Alien.

Jail protects only from kills.
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Post Post #2380 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:35 pm

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In post 2379, Enchant wrote:Jailkeeping not Alien.

Jail protects only from kills.
Wrong.
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Post Post #2381 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:37 pm

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In post 2379, Enchant wrote:Jailkeeping not Alien.

Jail protects only from kills.
Blocks all night actions incoming and outgoing.
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Post Post #2382 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:38 pm

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In post 2381, Galron wrote:
In post 2379, Enchant wrote:Jailkeeping not Alien.

Jail protects only from kills.
Blocks all night actions incoming and outgoing.
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Post Post #2383 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:40 pm

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Sigh.

It's early and I've been up all night. I'm going to bed.
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Post Post #2384 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:41 pm

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... And?
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Post Post #2385 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:41 pm

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In post 2374, Galron wrote:
In post 2371, House wrote:
In post 2369, Galron wrote:
In post 2364, House wrote:
In post 2362, Galron wrote:I don't remember if that was mod confirmed, but that could be it. It would've helped if Zefiend saidhe jailed N1
Jailkept players cannot be acted upon.

That's standard mechanics.
What I'm saying is that zefiend should have told us who he blocked N1. I just found it -- he jailed because he TR Taly the most N1. So If a roleblocker blocked Cheeky, she wouldn't have been able to use her hider, and then the maf shooter would've been able to shoot her. But I think you're saying that because Taly was Jailed, Cheeky's hider was unable to be used, so she was the direct kill.
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That's what Occam's Razor leads me to.
Occam's led me to the other thing, but okay then.
You're right. I'm loopy right now.

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Post Post #2386 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:42 pm

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I'm about done with this mech talk. I don't think it's leading anywhere. But

N1 Cheeky killed, Taly jailed
N2 No kill, scorpious jailed
N3 zefiend killed

The weird thing is that in his post 1588 where he claims, he says he jailed Scorpious not because he thought Scrop may be a shooter but because Scorp was a claimed PR, and Zefiend thought he was a possible target despite listing all the bad stuff Scorp had done. I think zefiend deserves an emmy for this because I don't think he believed that Scorp was town at all, and Zefiend was setting himself up to last a bit longer.

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In post 1586, ɀefiend wrote:I jailed Scorpious. Isn't there a discrepancy between what Scorpious claimed to submit and what he claimed?
In post 60, Scorpious wrote:Man, I am so lame. Everyone asked for all these exotic roles and I’m here, like yeah! Role blocker!!

Admittedly this is my first u pick

I picked
Ninja
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With a town preference

I’m so boring
In post 1506, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1505, Enchant wrote:7+ days passed and no one decapitated, wtf stale game.

VOTE: Scorpious
I agree, watching house feed his ego is getting old.

I’m a 1-shot Neapolitan and I was blocked last night looking at Zefiend..
I jailed him on the off-chance that he was somehow telling the truth, and is another town PR, because I figured that scum might be inclined to shoot claimed PRs. However, they might be afraid of myself being protected.

So is it more likely that there is a discrepancy in Scorpious' claims and was the NK target last night,

or is it more likely that Scorpious was chosen to perform the NK?

Given how bad most of Scorpious' votes have been all game, then IF he is scum, I would think that the scum team would judge him to be on shakiest ground, and therefore least risk in performing the NK.

Meg vote --> bad
Cheeky vote --> bad
Another Meg vote --> bad again
Enchant vote --> lazy but fine
Dwlee vote --> I don't understand it, maybe fine
zefiend vote --> bad
flea vote --> bad

In my opinion Scorpious is not a prime NK target, since if he were actually telling the truth, his powers are used up and now from scum's perspective he would just be a Named VT. I think even if you toss out Taly and I from NK pool because scum is scared of protection, there are better targets than Scorpious.

So I am inclined to believe Scorpious was sent to perform the kill and would be willing to vote there.
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Post Post #2387 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:43 pm

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G'nite
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Post Post #2388 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:48 pm

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In post 105, Yume wrote:Submitted roles: Roleblocker, Role Cop, Neighbour
Town preference.
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Post Post #2389 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:57 pm

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Oh. I see.
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Post Post #2390 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:00 am

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As told before, mafia blocking and killing same person first night is meeh...
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Post Post #2391 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:55 am

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Cheeky Day 1 moves her vote around (I need to do more of that actually). From House to Scorpious to Galron and finally to Meg. In between you can see her solving; In she has a POE of {Galron, mastina,
Taly
,
Greeting
,
zefiiend
and
Scorpious
} She bumps zefiend out to a TR not long after that.

In she is suspecting

one of {titus, House, mastina,
Taly
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{
scorpious
}and
one of {
Greeting
,
zefiend
, Enchant}

A page later she says she town reads
zefiend
and that leaves her with{Galron, House,
Taly
,
Scorpious
} and she then goes on to TR Galron soon after

Then way at the end she makes a bit a hero solve I guess {
Scorpious
, House,
Greeting
} that she admits is weak.

But before jumping on House, there's this from Scorpious, which may spew House town, the last sentence in particular.

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In post 757, Scorpious wrote:I was fine with what house had said about not sweating the small stuff until this. Cheeky keeps defaulting to me, and I still have no idea why. Like I have ZERO to go off of,except a 3 sentence case that made no sense.

So far these 2 have been the only ones to really push me, I guess meg, but that's so weak that's not even worth worrying about.

Plus the extra comments like "He's not going to respond to pressure anyway..." What is that?

Why are you constantly Goading me?

How can someone that says they intentionally ignored a question audacious enough to want to wagon someone else when they have not given any semblance of reasoning to why?

I think House and Cheeky are connected.

VOTE: Cheeky


I was hoping to find some dis-associatives in Cheeky's ISO, but really she made several good pushes on Scorpious, House and mastina. So if I'm reading Cheeky's mind, she's going after House, Galron or mastina today. Likely not mastina because of the mason claim. So probably House and me, and maybe not even me.

I want to do a couple more of thsese.

*Cheeky flipped hider
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Post Post #2392 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:57 am

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In post 2390, Enchant wrote:As told before, mafia blocking and killing same person first night is meeh...
Yeah, and I didn't see anything in Cheeky's ISO that would look blockable unless they caught her crumbs w/ Taly at the end.
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Post Post #2393 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:05 am

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In post 754, CheekyTeeky wrote:Maybe I was wrong on greeting idk. Anyone who does meta would receive my adoration for the rest of the game if they could look into them.

{Scorpious, House, Greeting} seems warmer.
In post 755, CheekyTeeky wrote:Does house unvote a potential mislim though? Like I can see what enchant is saying with the claim fishing but as scum do you give up the non-buddy flip for a potential PR lim? Something something bird in the hand.
In post 761, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 757, Scorpious wrote:I think House and Cheeky are connected.

VOTE: Cheeky
Thank you for confirming my suspicions on house.
I think she was being very coy about Taly, not scumreading him at all, but she obv had 2d thoughts about house.
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Post Post #2394 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:44 am

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<sees two pages of incorrect explanations of normal roles>
<walks away>
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2395 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:02 am

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Post Post #2396 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:01 pm

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In post 2390, Enchant wrote:As told before, mafia blocking and killing same person first night is meeh...
In post 2392, Galron wrote:
In post 2390, Enchant wrote:As told before, mafia blocking and killing same person first night is meeh...
Yeah, and I didn't see anything in Cheeky's ISO that would look blockable unless they caught her crumbs w/ Taly at the end.
Enchant's post somehow bugs me here, even though I kinda give in to his invitation to brush it off. It's like I'm being told "Yeah well you know that's how it goes," and I play right into it.

It seems there's a fairly even split over whether enchant is town right?

And if someone goes out of their way to make a response to you, who brought the subject up, then there's a thing that exists. So here, Enchant is making something he says is not a thing, a thing.
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Post Post #2397 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:07 pm

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I got there by reading Scorpious's ISO, and there really wasn't much there. Just interactions with the now-dead, House and Enchant. The spats with House I think would meet the criteria, whatever you define that as, of not S/S. So seeing as Scorp flipped red, House almost has to be town. As far as Enchant, there weren't any arguments I don't think, and it was all perfunctory, no solving. So in looking at Scorp's ISO, I'd +town House and +scum enchant.
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Post Post #2398 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:09 pm

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So you think mafia roleblocked and killed same target, because i say it's unlikely?
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Post Post #2399 (ISO) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:01 pm

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In post 2195, Titus wrote:
In post 2193, mastina wrote:(I'm not just a mason. I have an additional role beyond that.)
Triplicate? You can refuse to answer if you don't want or are confused.
I get your meaning, but no, not Triplicate. You're both right and wrong tho; you've got the two that I'm not.
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