open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[catboi]

I wish I felt vindication or like anything but I'm just exhausted right now

[Kaiji]

wow look only one kill
i am shocked
SHOCKED i tell you

Yeah i'm not surprised either

Mare do u have a hood with enchant?

Enchant what's ur check?

Fun.

It doesn't mean scum don't have n3 vig, but I guess that's moot now.

For now we just wait to hear results.

these are all boring but datisi's feels weird tonally while skitter's is just robotic

[Kaiji]

I wish I felt vindication or like anything but I'm just exhausted right now

this is karma for circus mafia

[Kaiji]

u are now equalized

[catboi]

Catboi if you're not doing some batshit crazy gambit with enchant, I apologize for the read flip.

I do want to say I would never have mena guilty you there as I was townreading you.

You'll prob write that off as WIFOM but it is true.

You realize that you are like, the primary candidate here for faking a guilty on town, right? I don't know who else actually tries to pull something like that.

[catboi]

I wish I felt vindication or like anything but I'm just exhausted right now

this is karma for circus mafia

look that was dumb but I had a REASON

[Kaiji]

I think that I'm not the only one who could think of that. As much as I'd like to discuss hypotheticals, I think: You, Skitter, SS, Alyssa, Datisi are all capable also of suggesting a fake guilty, which means it is something that doesnt really narrow teams down here.

I cede yes it is possible I have him do that but i dont think in that situation.

[catboi]

I put in basically 0 time thinking about this game overnight because I didn't want to and was anticipating more of a screaming match today

I can try to actually put a read in tomorrow

[catboi]

I think that I'm not the only one who could think of that. As much as I'd like to discuss hypotheticals, I think: You, Skitter, SS, Alyssa, Datisi are all capable also of suggesting a fake guilty, which means it is something that doesnt really narrow teams down here.

I cede yes it is possible I have him do that but i dont think in that situation.

Why wouldn't you do it

[catboi]

oh right brainflash SS literally did have a teammate fake a guilty in this setup

[Kaiji]

I think that I'm not the only one who could think of that. As much as I'd like to discuss hypotheticals, I think: You, Skitter, SS, Alyssa, Datisi are all capable also of suggesting a fake guilty, which means it is something that doesnt really narrow teams down here.

I cede yes it is possible I have him do that but i dont think in that situation.

Why wouldn't you do it

I don't know the scum team composition, but let's assume:

Goon - Ascetic Cop(i believe pooky was actually *taunting* mare with that) - 1 shot vig


in this composition - if mena is just dead weight, I dont bother making him survive another day.


I dont think my position in the gamestate makes it 100% impossible but my instinct once its d3 onwards is bus 4 cred because then endgame becomes impossible.

[Kaiji]

wait no scum would take BP

[Kaiji]

if enchant flips BP i would clear mare via spew from that thing i did see from pooky

its stupid and small but i believe in it lol

(willing to be overriden with better logic but its a great baseline spew read)

[Kaiji]

I think the better question is though: what benefit do I perceive gaining by doing such a gambit and also being on the side that is clearly losing instead of faking a reevaluation onto enchant.

if we didnt have the snowstorm over the weekend i would have ended up voting enchant based on my n3 vig read

[Kaiji]

i gotta feelin............ that tonights gonna be a good night

vote count 3.8 ! (deadline expired!!)

Enchant (3):

catboi, Alyssa The Lamb, Datisi

catboi (2):

Enchant, Kaiji

no execution (2):

Something_Smart, skitter30

not voting (2):

Galron, Mare

9 are alive, and it takes 5 votes to reevaluate someone's considerations

other ideas

• did you know that skitter30 is vla on fridays and saturdays?
  
• did you know that datisi is vla on tuesdays and thursdays?
  
• and kaiji is vla until sunday

Skitter is precisely in a position where I feel scum would be, ensuring enchant doesnt go over but also seeming like they are on the right side with their words.

I feel this also clears Datisi and Alyssa to a degree.

I hate to say it but my reads on replace in feel like were much more accurate than I thought lol.

[Kaiji]

Skitter didn't even give the opportunity to hammer enchant if we wanted to there -an important distinction from actually being on enchant wagon.

I'll dig deeper later but I think at least this should convince people of the viability of me being town and my solve (atm) being potentially correct.

[Kaiji]

Catboi - who do you think gets nightkilled here after enchant dies?

More specifically, after we no lim for 5 way, who do you think the 2 dead players are?

I feel it will be you and Alyssa.

Also @mare hood me tonight i work well in hoods and it would let me talk about the game during the nightphase we are no limming lol

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Eh I was hoping for a little beyond what you actually looked at but I see the ambiguity

[Kaiji]

im no longer as busy as I was earlier

except maybe i will go grab food

If we reach limlo and no one wants to question me i will try to canvas a self towncase myself lol

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I mean, I guess I'll just say it

I think the scumteam is exactly Enchant + Datisi + Something_Smart

[Kaiji]

I mean, I guess I'll just say it

I think the scumteam is exactly Enchant + Datisi + Something_Smart

this isn't far off from my current solve.

[Kaiji]

Why datisi fwiw.
I feel his lack of engagement in thread is a toss up.

Datisi is kinda slotted into the 4th "scum" slot for me atp

Who would be a backup scum if either datisi or SS were modconfirmed town?

[Something_Smart]

Datisi/Pooky picking multitasking and intentionally colliding is a pretty tough pill to swallow. Though I obviously know that solve is wrong anyway, and I don't know how much of it is associative-based.

[Something_Smart]

Is no-lim in 6-way wise? Scum could have vengeful.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Why datisi fwiw.
I feel his lack of engagement in thread is a toss up.

Datisi is kinda slotted into the 4th "scum" slot for me atp

Who would be a backup scum if either datisi or SS were modconfirmed town?

skitter