open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Alyssa The Lamb]

wow look only one kill
i am shocked
SHOCKED i tell you

okay, assuming that scum!mare doesn't take neighbourizer as top scum in draft: from my pov, either the team is exactly catboi/alyssa/kaiji, or enchant is lying.

anything that disproves that team?

HOODED WITH ENCHANT

VOTE: ENCHANT

good shit

i am increasingly angry we did not vote him out yesterday

and I think this set of posts is scummy af

[Alyssa The Lamb]

fwiw

I still think my general take on Mare being town because of no action on night one is still valid, which inherently makes Enchant scum by default

I still think my reasons for townreading catboi are valid
I still think that Pooky/Menalque both setting up the claim is not indicative of that slot being town, especially if someone like Something_Smart is scum with them; I feel like skitter is a little bit too careful as scum to want to buy into that too much, and I'm kinda iffy on how many other slots would really buy into that as much as they did without hard selling it when the time was right

atm I think what happened is that Menalque just mega fucked the plan with the claim and the scumteam have been wanting to distance away from it so that it doesn't bring the entire team down

I lowkey think Datisi outright TMIed the exact scenario we're in with 6243

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm not really fond of how skitter approached it either but it's nowhere near as egregious

[Alyssa The Lamb]

eh actually skitter's entrance is fine

[Kaiji]

Do you think SS could be town

[Alyssa The Lamb]

it's possible

[Something_Smart]

That's... encouraging?

Why do you think I'm not? PoE?

[Kaiji]

being knocked clean out of a tunnel by an unexpected nightkill feels like clarity ngl

(was gonna type something else but decided against it due to nsfw ROFL)

[Alyssa The Lamb]

with Mare/Catboi being town and Enchant/Datisi being scum

Kaiji doesn't fit the profile of somebody that would make these kills

You and Skitter both do, but I think Skitter looks a bit more town

that's basically it

[Alyssa The Lamb]

don't you love rhythm games in the sense that if you slow it down to like 70 or 80% speed, it gets like 50x harder

that's my life right now

[Something_Smart]

I don't generally buy into NKA much, but I'm clearly out of tune with how people think, just, in general.

I think that a Kaiji-scum/catboi-town world only makes sense if scum did have the N3 vig and Kaiji was just angling to win yesterday, and even then I find it unlikely that Kaiji would see that as the easiest way to win.

[Kaiji]

i have worse scores in all rhythm games on the slower tracks because my internal metronome struggles to go lower than 110bpm

[Something_Smart]

I don't play rhythm games but I was just at a band practice which is kinda like a rhythm game.

Those definitely get easier when you slow them down, so long as people watch the damn conductor.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I don't generally buy into NKA much, but I'm clearly out of tune with how people think, just, in general.

I think that a Kaiji-scum/catboi-town world only makes sense if scum did have the N3 vig and Kaiji was just angling to win yesterday, and even then I find it unlikely that Kaiji would see that as the easiest way to win.

The nightkills this game very strongly signify a "stable" type mindset

You and skitter are the types of players I strongly expect to have that type of mindset

Kaiji (at least I suspect as much) and myself are players that have an "unstable" type mindset

aka the nightkills this game aren't trying to fuck with people, they're playing around mechanics and avoiding PoEs

[Kaiji]

my priority is usually wim players ngl

[Kaiji]

also finally someone else that actually subscribes to NKA, the best way to find scum in the later game.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I subscribe to everything

because everything has a place and nothing is always useful

[Something_Smart]

The nightkills this game very strongly signify a "stable" type mindset

You and skitter are the types of players I strongly expect to have that type of mindset

Kaiji (at least I suspect as much) and myself are players that have an "unstable" type mindset

aka the nightkills this game aren't trying to fuck with people, they're playing around mechanics and avoiding PoEs

I feel like Koba's scumgame is dynamic enough to make stable-style kills when they deem it useful, but by and large this makes sense.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

is this a game where Kaiji would kill midwaybear on night two?

even at this point I can only see "prevents him from being conftown" as a compelling reason why he was a good kill at all

[skitter30]

Amd we're sure mare is town?

I'm jusr thinking through everything (tinfoil for why galron died over mare, etc)

we're not, but like, idk what else to do, i don't think scum in 4th takes neighbourizer /shrug

Kaiji looks abt 19x worse in a scum-enchant world

very much agreed

Is dats partnered?

@kaiji

[skitter30]

I'm not informed of who the scumteam is so unfortunately if I am reaching the wrong conclusion I do not have a cheatsheet to help me Skitter. So what about my approach seemed TMI to you?

I will be going through the second question in detail during limlo.

Ok so it would help to understand how you got yo the conclusion that catboinwas scum yesterday

[skitter30]

I'd like limlo to go like this:

I vote someone.

We see if scum blitz, if not, theyre voting me back likely at that point


and then we discuss

I mean i'm not sure i like this plan

[skitter30]

I think that I'm not the only one who could think of that. As much as I'd like to discuss hypotheticals, I think: You, Skitter, SS, Alyssa, Datisi are all capable also of suggesting a fake guilty, which means it is something that doesnt really narrow teams down here.

I cede yes it is possible I have him do that but i dont think in that situation.

I dont suggest faking a guilty that involves faking an inno on myself as well

Tbh j'm not sure if mena ran this plan by his teammates

[skitter30]

if we didnt have the snowstorm over the weekend i would have ended up voting enchant based on my n3 vig read

Skitter didn't even give the opportunity to hammer enchant if we wanted to there -an important distinction from actually being on enchant wagon.

- if i wasnt like literally getting on / being on a plane i would have ended up voting enchant based on my n3 vig read
(This irl reasoning applies to you but is scummy for me because ... )
- you were literally arguing tjat catboi was scum and trying to talk me into voting him ... i'm supposed to believe you would have swapped to enchant ???!

[Datisi]

and I think this set of posts is scummy af

alyssa calling me scummy and refusing to elaborate? who could've seen that coming