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[MathBlade]

All three of you, Ari, and Datisi have railed against looking at that D1 wagon.

Despite now knowing that I was right not a single player in the PoE of people on Lap is making an argument based on D1.

From this and combining the pushes here it really tells me D1 holds the answers just not sure who.

[Andresvmb]

I'm not a meta junkie, anybody that knows me at all knows that.

Andres is, but it's actively ignoring mine because he knows it undermines any attempt he could possibly make at scumreading me, and trying to justify it by telling me to read HIS meta when that's not a tool I use except in very limited circumstances on very few players.

Why are you so intent on misstating what I’m saying? And since when am I a meta junkie? I’ve played with Datisi many times now, I have had to scrutinize them repeatedly as Town and them Scum, and I have a more solid feel for what I think I should be expecting from them specifically. Same goes for Koba. What I haven’t done and you seem to want to imply that I do this a lot, is use past games from players that I’m not familiar with, to make statements about their alignment in the present game based on common threads I’m perceiving. I tried to do that with Noraa in that game I referenced, and failed miserably. I have not done it since. This is the distinction you’re not grasping. I will use my own personal experience with players I have played with repeatedly to try to make sense of what I’m perceiving in a game, but I will always defer to the content of the game itself when making a final judgment.

I’m not arguing this anymore.

[MathBlade]

despite arguing the correct PoE all game

skitter30 (6): ... MathBlade ...

Yes I voted Skitter because she was scum or antitown AF. As said earlier I don’t regret it and I would do it again.

Doesn’t change the fact the PoE I had is accurate.

[Aristeia]

What was your POE?

[House]

I’m not arguing this anymore.

Good. Repeating your agenda doesn't improve its credibility.

[Andresvmb]

I’m not arguing this anymore.

Good. Repeating your agenda doesn't improve its credibility.

Proving you don’t understand basic logic doesn’t improve your standing either.

[MathBlade]

I'm going to go to the bar, but food for thought: I don't think Lap's wagon was pure and A50 wasn't the scum on it.

Looking at the OP it says the mafia was a goon so probably in the front half and planned bus would be where I would start.

On Lap wagon.

The entire scum team is likely on the lap wagon, barring SS + Datisi which I never consider without a Datisi red flip, the odds are remote but possible.

[Datisi]

Doesn’t change the fact the PoE I had is accurate.

"the poe i had was accurate! i only deviated from it to help quickhammer a town player and secure that misflip, but you see, the only thing that proves is that the poe i had at first was accurate and that i'm town!!"

[Aristeia]

On Lap wagon.

The entire scum team is likely on the lap wagon, barring SS + Datisi which I never consider without a Datisi red flip, the odds are remote but possible.

so why did you vote for skitter if you thought the entire scum team was on the lap wagon?

[House]

It's not like I'm making an "I never bus as scum" argument, or "i never do this particular THING" as scum/town yadda yadda.

I'm like 2 completely different people from 2 completely different planets based on alignment.

Even people that don't know what the word meta means would know I'm not the same player.

[MathBlade]

tl;dr :

Don't give a shit.

VOTE: Frogsterking

Can't say you weren't warned.

Hardclaim Masons with innocentvillager

Softed on page 1 & my reads list (same green color code for me and iv, different code for other hard townreads). Interactions between us show familiarity when I've never been in a game with them. They call me town but don't justify it, unlike their other townreads.

iv didn't want me to out on d1 and one of our earlier public interactions was him trying to discourage me from it when I mentioned in Mason chat that it would suck to out early.

Your chainsaw came back to bite you in the ass. Lap & Frog are scum together.

For my notes later.

Still think Froggy is red with Lap being red?

C’mon House….

[Aristeia]

if you're town and you believe the entire scum team is on the lap wagon and you e-1 someone who is not on the lapwagon because she dared to vote for you - that's borderline gamethrowing.

[MathBlade]

On Lap wagon.

The entire scum team is likely on the lap wagon, barring SS + Datisi which I never consider without a Datisi red flip, the odds are remote but possible.

so why did you vote for skitter if you thought the entire scum team was on the lap wagon?

Policy.

There was a possibility I was wrong but Skitter was blatantly unhelpful and not performing her best and damn near gamethrowing if town voting an inno. If the inno was on anyone else I do the same.

[Aristeia]

it was one vote. you weren't anywhere close to being killed. the day hadn't been even 24 hours and we didn't even get to talk to her.

[MathBlade]

if you're town and you believe the entire scum team is on the lap wagon and you e-1 someone who is not on the lapwagon because she dared to vote for you - that's borderline gamethrowing.

Sometimes I am wrong so Skitter has to die for voting a clear. I don’t regret it but I do it every time as it’s necessary.

[Aristeia]

no it's not game throwing for skitter to vote for you because you were nowhere near death

[MathBlade]

it was one vote. you weren't anywhere close to being killed. the day hadn't been even 24 hours and we didn't even get to talk to her.

Blame the hammerer then.

Why are you wasting this energy on me and not Frog?

[Datisi]

how hysteric will vp baltar get in the dead thread if i now voted mathblade again, i wonder

[Aristeia]

Sometimes I am wrong so Skitter has to die for voting a clear. I don’t regret it but I do it every time as it’s necessary.

this is borderline insanity

[Aristeia]

Why are you wasting this energy on me and not Frog?

because I would feel violently sick if I actually lost to scum!you here and you're not making me feel good about your towniness.

[MathBlade]

You’re more than welcome to argue it but I am clear mechanically and clear through play and my reads.

When I flip town you lose your credibility.

It’s a trade off that’s win win

Do you waste your emotional bank here and lose or try to miselim me later?

The game just doesn’t like the PoE and that’s known.

[Aristeia]

I really have trouble seeing how a sane town player can think "oh somebody voted for me when I'm an investigated inno so they have to die" Like it's just ugh so gross.

[MathBlade]

Why are you wasting this energy on me and not Frog?

because I would feel violently sick if I actually lost to scum!you here and you're not making me feel good about your towniness.

Good thing I am not scum.

It’s a game.

If you’re getting this worked up and you’re town take a step back.

If you’re scum bravo keep up the AtE

[MathBlade]

I really have trouble seeing how a sane town player can think "oh somebody voted for me when I'm an investigated inno so they have to die" Like it's just ugh so gross.

It’s not.

You always elim the cop claim before the inno

It’s mafia 101 but Skitter didn’t and she’s not a newbie

[Aristeia]

She didn't think the cop inno was 100% inno.

now that we see what VPB flipped as, it is actually not a 100% inno.

so she was completely right about the quality of the inno.