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[innocentvillager]

How do we know that VP visited Datisi?

[MathBlade]

In that world I always flip Datisi first. Debated pushing hard for it to confirm SS but then realized that’s dumb as scum likely shoot SS tonight.

We don’t. There was a post that indicates he likely did but people disagree

[Aristeia]

Sorry this game is moving really fast for how much I wanted to put into this - won’t be rereading much

Im pretty sold on House town. I’ve never ever in my MS career seen someone with a polarized meta play this far out of scumrange and constantly yell about their polarized meta - as that kind of player myself it’s just too relatable as town and not something I’m capable of on this level as scum.

Can someone summarize for me the scenario where SS is scum? What would need to be true for SS to be scum? Is it just that mafia killed OutWorld and VP walked into scum, so SS panic claimed vig in a flash of brilliance when he saw I was softing GS? If so, I mean I guess it’s possible for someone with that level of mech ability, but still seems less likely than just taking his claim at face value.

If SS is scum this would be one of the lowest power levels I have ever seen for town in a mini normal.

So I guess maybe in the world where SS is a Mafia Loyal Vig or a Mafia Weak Complex Vigilante and we were meant to gain a vig by yeeting him Day 1?? That just seems like too much of a stretch to me and I don't think Mafia are even allowed to have Vigs in Mini Normals.

Also since you're outted and mostly accepted as town could you perhaps try to give us more to show us you are actually interested in solving this game please?

[MathBlade]

Sorry this game is moving really fast for how much I wanted to put into this - won’t be rereading much

Im pretty sold on House town. I’ve never ever in my MS career seen someone with a polarized meta play this far out of scumrange and constantly yell about their polarized meta - as that kind of player myself it’s just too relatable as town and not something I’m capable of on this level as scum.

Can someone summarize for me the scenario where SS is scum? What would need to be true for SS to be scum? Is it just that mafia killed OutWorld and VP walked into scum, so SS panic claimed vig in a flash of brilliance when he saw I was softing GS? If so, I mean I guess it’s possible for someone with that level of mech ability, but still seems less likely than just taking his claim at face value.

It’s a normal.
Scum can’t have the Vig tag period. See the mafiascum wiki
If SS is scum this would be one of the lowest power levels I have ever seen for town in a mini normal.

So I guess maybe in the world where SS is a Mafia Loyal Vig or a Mafia Weak Complex Vigilante and we were meant to gain a vig by yeeting him Day 1?? That just seems like too much of a stretch to me and I don't think Mafia are even allowed to have Vigs in Mini Normals.

Also since you're outted and mostly accepted as town could you perhaps try to give us more to show us you are actually interested in solving this game please?

[MathBlade]

Ugh my phone fucked up.
Scum can’t have Vig in their role period.
One of the rules of normal check the wiki

[innocentvillager]

Thanks. I’ll try to more towards this as I get back into it. Can i ask why im mostly accepted as town? Just curious

If it’s consensus then whatever but if it’s specific people driving the read I almost wonder if it’s a little tmi?

[Aristeia]

Mathblade and Datisi said the town power level is too low if you are mafia.

I disagree but I don't think anyone agrees with me so I'm fine not arguing it.

[innocentvillager]

I totally expected to just be viewed as a LHF this game and get PoE’d into the sun, so it’s curious to me why that reversed on me the moment I claimed I guess

[innocentvillager]

Okay interesting. I’ll be thjnk about it a bit more

[Aristeia]

we massclaimed and the only claimed tprs are:

??? Vig
Even Night Gunsmith
Backup N1 Vigilante
Weak Disloyal Fruit Vendor

and they think if the EN Gunsmith isn't there then the town is too underpowered

[MathBlade]

Thanks. I’ll try to more towards this as I get back into it. Can i ask why im mostly accepted as town? Just curious

If it’s consensus then whatever but if it’s specific people driving the read I almost wonder if it’s a little tmi?

It’s because of the claims.
People wanted to really elim you but then there was some bickering and while you and I are the designated scum miselims they can’t push us without outing themselves as they’d end up having to have scum on the wagon.

Your role confirms me and SS
My role confirms you and SS

SS sees that we’re both town.

So it’s a matter of chicken as scum tries to rebel against that and fail or they end up pushing an elim or doing nothing but mainly they have to hunt in the PoE I said on replace in.

[Aristeia]

you are giving me "I can't believe this fake claim worked" vibes but I'm too exhausted to really pursue this angle with you just try to be townie pls.

[MathBlade]

My role is strictly anti utility as you never (if smart) elim a vig claim D1, you make them fire, so designed to be caught by GS and then wtf which is why A50 claimed early as it’s Milleresque

You’re the invest but since there’s two players with a vig modifier that acts as soft innos.

So the three together form a block.

Then one shot Weak Fruit vendor as the last bit as it gives scum cover.

So pretty mid range power for lots of scum outs.

[Something_Smart]

Can someone summarize for me the scenario where SS is scum? What would need to be true for SS to be scum? Is it just that mafia killed OutWorld and VP walked into scum, so SS panic claimed vig in a flash of brilliance when he saw I was softing GS? If so, I mean I guess it’s possible for someone with that level of mech ability, but still seems less likely than just taking his claim at face value.

I mega softed to House even before that, so it would be more that I was setting up a vig claim from the beginning of the day so that people didn't realize VP had a guilty.

[MathBlade]

Now see granted, the main issue here is there’s 5 people left

Andres House Ari Datisi and Frog who could be scum

Or

SS + Datisi (doubtful listing for completion)

The game has stalled because it’s now a dilemma for any scum than plans out moves

If they elim town shoot SS

Then if SS fires into that PoE then if two scum are there they have to bus as it will be down to two scum in three players and me and IV alive to take it up.

So instead they fruitlessly push me to break out of it.

[MathBlade]

Can someone summarize for me the scenario where SS is scum? What would need to be true for SS to be scum? Is it just that mafia killed OutWorld and VP walked into scum, so SS panic claimed vig in a flash of brilliance when he saw I was softing GS? If so, I mean I guess it’s possible for someone with that level of mech ability, but still seems less likely than just taking his claim at face value.

I mega softed to House even before that, so it would be more that I was setting up a vig claim from the beginning of the day so that people didn't realize VP had a guilty.

What’s your read on Datisi SS?

[Aristeia]

The game has stalled

We are not even 2 days into Day 3.

The game has not stalled.

[MathBlade]

The game has stalled

We are not even 2 days into Day 3.

The game has not stalled.

Lol.

No one posting for a few hours is stalling with the way y’all put up BS.

[MathBlade]

You aren’t even voting Ari c’mon.

Vote someone

[Something_Smart]

What’s your read on Datisi SS?

PoE scum maybe?

[Aristeia]

It's probably good to not post so Andres/IV can catch up to where we are at and give their full thoughts as opposed to always stuck in catch up mode.

I think we've heard enough from me/you/house/frogster/datisi.

[Aristeia]

You aren’t even voting Ari c’mon.

Vote someone

I want to read more first.

[Aristeia]

if I had to vote now I'd vote for Frogster over Andres but I think I'm ok with either one tbh.

[MathBlade]

if I had to vote now I'd vote for Frogster over Andres but I think I'm ok with either one tbh.

I’d like you to vote now (ish) so that way the votes are controlled by the PoE and we can use it to find scum. If you’re town we can see which poison pill scum take.

Not like immediate but soon ish.

Because if you vote Frogger and Frogger is town then scum likely on before you I think.

I will have to double check the VCs

But the tighter the PoE is the PoE voting first gives insights.

[MathBlade]

What’s your read on Datisi SS?

PoE scum maybe?

If I were you I would strongly think about firing tonight. Don’t respond if you can or not, I just want you to think about it.