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[Ahri]

geria is mafia btw

[Ahri]

hi friends

shall we do something

[Ahri]

we can also like, not

[butterchurn]

Personally, I don't see any need to push forward with anything before Owl and yeezys check in. If you've made your decision on where to vote and don't see it changing, though, that's fine, I suppose. I'm still concerned about the possibility of a Nero/Owl/geraint team but I guess we'll find out shortly if that's it or not.

[Datisi]

replacing Quiet Owl.

[Datisi]

Not_Mafia replaces Quiet Owl.

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Not_Mafia]

UNVOTE:

[Datisi]

Klick replaces yeezys.

[Klick]

This game is entirely my speed lmao

I'll read up later tonight, looks like yeezys already claimed my meme role and Ahri and I are clear? That's neat

[Nero Cain]

scum is jeff/owl and one of butter or ger. there I solved it for you.

[Klick]

Y

[Klick]

Yeezy thought butter was scum that's cool

[Klick]

VOTE: bababooey

I’d almost advocate a replacement as this is an obvious troll.

This seemed off to me at first but after musing on it a bit, I think it's more likely to come from perhaps overzealous town.

This was a good observation for good reasons

[Klick]

But a quick ISO of butterchurn in this game compared to his other completed game on-site makes me feel pretty odd about him. The general impression I get from his posts in this game is that he's trying to *present* information, to *persuade* in what he writes. Where in his other game everything felt more like *analysis*.

Pretty vague general observation but it's my initial impression. We'll see if it holds up when I read more in-depth.

[Klick]

galron giving people an out and then acknowledging his mistake later makes me happy

Good stuff

If someone gets annoyed at me catching up with spam just let me know and I'll hold back until I've finished catching up

[Not_Mafia]

My name is N_M and I'm here to say
To get your spring cleaning done today
Furniture, a vase or a shoe
Polishing is the thing to do
Make leather and brass shine like a star
With some polish, you'll go far
You can even polish a turd
So my shitposting will be heard

[Klick]

VOTE: butterchurn

I pocketed greeting once with posts like 134.

This guy died n1 btw

[Nero Cain]

Y

b/c all 3 scum are in

Hella Jeff
Nero Cain
geraintm
butterchurn
Quiet Owl

and I'm town so that means

Hella Jeff
geraintm
butterchurn
Quiet Owl

contain all 3 scum

barring some big brain play where butter and Ger are scum together and he's distancing from him they are different factions meaning 2 of the 3 scum are in jeff and owl wich makes sense via play.

I was thinking butter was the third b/c he was light pushing Ger and I get the vibe that he really doesn't want to vote in OWL and Jeff and he has the weird circular logic Jeff is scum and he's pushing a me/owl team but then when I offered to vote Owl then he says I'm trying to get out of my 1v1 against Jeff. dammed if I do dammed if I don't. Also him and Jeff cheerleading a Scorp wagon but not voting there was really bad.

but Ger's lat 2 posts were very poor

[butterchurn]

I don't really see any reason for the lim today to be anything but Jeff -- if he's town, NM and ger will end the game as soon as ger shows up, and if they don't then he's scum and we can vote him out. I'm willing to vote there once the replacements have caught up and are ready to move forward.

But a quick ISO of butterchurn in this game compared to his other completed game on-site makes me feel pretty odd about him. The general impression I get from his posts in this game is that he's trying to *present* information, to *persuade* in what he writes. Where in his other game everything felt more like *analysis*.

Pretty vague general observation but it's my initial impression. We'll see if it holds up when I read more in-depth.

I could see this being accurate to some extent, at least in regards to how I interact with others and how I'm approaching scumhunting. My previous game I was new to the site, rusty, and generally felt less confident and comfortable engaging with others, and focused more on (imo weaker) isolated analysis and meta reads, and was somewhat careful and second-guessing in a way that I think was detrimental to my play. By endgame though I think I fell more into what is my more natural playstyle, and after having one game under my belt I felt more willing to approach this game in a similar way.

[butterchurn]

I was thinking butter was the third b/c he was light pushing Ger and I get the vibe that he really doesn't want to vote in OWL and Jeff and he has the weird circular logic Jeff is scum and he's pushing a me/owl team but then when I offered to vote Owl then he says I'm trying to get out of my 1v1 against Jeff. dammed if I do dammed if I don't. Also him and Jeff cheerleading a Scorp wagon but not voting there was really bad.

I was open to voting Owl, as I said at the time, but it was still worth noting that you trying to get out of the 1v1 had an effect on my opinion of which teams were more likely. You have consistently had an incorrect understanding (or you're misrepresenting them intentionally) of where my suspicions were despite me being very clear about them. I thought Ger was most likely to be mafia, followed by Owl. Those two were who I saw as most likely partners, and I was trying to figure out which was more likely to be the 3rd between you and Jeff. You/Jeff/Ger was a possible but less likely option (as I noted, I started seeing it as more likely after you offered to switch off Jeff, but it still seemed less likely to me than the teams of Owl/Ger and you or Jeff). You/Owl/Jeff was very unlikely, and only got less likely in my eyes as the Day progressed.

You think it would have been more pro-town for me to vote Scorp? The first 2 Days ended way early. I think that significantly hurt town. Why would I as town want to push the wagon faster and end the Day early again? It's just going to reduce discussion and analysis and dayplay even further. I was clearly willing to vote him, it's not like the fact that I wasn't on the wagon looks any better (in fact I think it looks worse), so what exactly is my scum motivation to not vote?

[Nero Cain]

so your not on the wagon to avoid VCA and just in generally saying that you want a wagon but then don't join doesn't really make any sense

[butterchurn]

You're clearly a much more impatient player than I am (I genuinely do not mean to be insulting here, apologies if it comes off that way, I think it's just a different approach to the game). You voted fua 12 hours after you said that it was better to wait and burn some deadline. You hammered Scorp and ended the Day early. You voted Jeff toDay right away before there was time for any discussion. I don't play like that, and I don't particularly think it helps town to do so. I value dayplay and discussion much higher, and in general prefer to wait unless there's a good reason not to. It's possible that a lot of this just comes down to a playstyle difference.

[butterchurn]

To give a specific example in the case of Scorp -- I think it's more valuable to see how people respond to my stated suspicion and willingness to vote than it is to vote right away. I'll learn the alignment of whoever is being limmed either way, but this way I get to learn more about everyone else and there's more information in the thread to work with. Shoving the wagons in and ending the Days early has cut off a lot of that information that we would otherwise have to work with in a more typical game, and it's made it harder to hunt scum.

[Nero Cain]

I hammered Jeff after 4 days, we had all discussed and everyone had checked in. No one said anything about your not voting Scorp.

but I wasn't voting to get reactions

don't really buy it