open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[skitter30]

And boy am i regretting not pushing thru nsg while she was getting replaced day2 or whenever that was

Pedit literally all that anybody wants from you is to Explain Your Emchant Trajectory

Its really not that complicated

[Kaiji]

btw i dont do pedits that last sentence was unrelated to the vote

[Enchant]

Who the hell is Emchant

[Datisi]

literally all i did was make one prodge post, all of my stuff after that was responding to questions and things aimed at me, how is that derailing?

[Kaiji]

awe need to kill me before night kill analysis starts pointing against me and towards you, cute <3

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Just indicating why your reads shifted throughout d3 is probably enough kaiji

Like when they happened and why

[skitter30]

*deep breath*

*deep breath*

*deep breath*

[Kaiji]

remember when skitter said that if the vig is confirmed scum then that means I slipped non-TMI? good times

i remember things people say dw

[Kaiji]

*deep breath*

*deep breath*

*deep breath*

hey i did this exact type of performative nonsense in my last scum game hahah


its funny how we have similarities in our scumgames i like it.

[skitter30]

*deep breath*

Pedit ok later

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Kaiji you're acting similarly to how you were when you were scumreading me

[Kaiji]

Just indicating why your reads shifted throughout d3 is probably enough kaiji

Like when they happened and why

Sure. I started out townreading both catboi+mena(because of pooky) before - Pooky was mostly because I felt their tone was good and they were actually solving on d1 and I had experienced scum pooky twice in recent times and had actually caught him. (mind you i caught him only later on, so I thought I had confidence in reading his early game better)

i'm a bit hazy on the details but I think mena comes out with the guilty first and i shift to not believing them? or a little bit before. i just remember that I was like not townreading mena slot at the time of the guilty UPDATE after i wrote the bottom -> I remember now - I was scumreading mena slot BECAUSE i scumread skitter at the time and the inno meant that the world where skitter was town made no sense there so the cop had to be fake then.

fast forward a bit and I feel that catboi is just like trying to anti spew and solo tunnel the mena slot and kinda doing nothing else in general so i start to question my read on them and i go back to my pooky townread and i start to push catboi. this shift partially was inspired by the fact they were nommed for don corlelone and i was also kinda egoing that i wanted to be the one to catch scum them like that and yeah.

I fluctuated between unsure and catboi scum a bit after that and that's why I wanted the nolim at points - I didn't wanna lose the cop because in 2 recent games I lost because we mislimmed a cop and it sucked.

by EoD I realized that because of voting patterns, where several people voted both people - it was incredibly unlikely we had a scum vig there and wanted to just get enchant hammered to confirm catboi. I can't prove this until my alignment is proven - but I genuinely missed deadline(mainly because of how sparse the vote counts were)

If anyone wants some more specific questions I can answer - except from skitter.

[Kaiji]

Kaiji you're acting similarly to how you were when you were scumreading me

I don't see how this is like scum indicative but sure.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

It's not

[Alyssa The Lamb]

btw I never said you're playing poorly

I said you're being completely insufferable

my apologies if i said something that felt shutting down - i am autistic and miss cues and directly telling me does help me recalibrate and realize what im doing (which is what im doing now)


as the saying goes - beggars cant be choosers - and if youre one of the only ones even remotely willing to interact and discuss i need to take that and im willing to yield ground here.

I mean more along this vein

[Kaiji]

Just indicating why your reads shifted throughout d3 is probably enough kaiji

Like when they happened and why

Sure. I started out townreading both catboi+mena(because of pooky) before - Pooky was mostly because I felt their tone was good and they were actually solving on d1 and I had experienced scum pooky twice in recent times and had actually caught him. (mind you i caught him only later on, so I thought I had confidence in reading his early game better)

i'm a bit hazy on the details but I think mena comes out with the guilty first and i shift to not believing them? or a little bit before. i just remember that I was like not townreading mena slot at the time of the guilty UPDATE after i wrote the bottom -> I remember now - I was scumreading mena slot BECAUSE i scumread skitter at the time and the inno meant that the world where skitter was town made no sense there so the cop had to be fake then.

fast forward a bit and I feel that catboi is just like trying to anti spew and solo tunnel the mena slot and kinda doing nothing else in general so i start to question my read on them and i go back to my pooky townread and i start to push catboi. this shift partially was inspired by the fact they were nommed for don corlelone and i was also kinda egoing that i wanted to be the one to catch scum them like that and yeah.

I fluctuated between unsure and catboi scum a bit after that and that's why I wanted the nolim at points - I didn't wanna lose the cop because in 2 recent games I lost because we mislimmed a cop and it sucked.

by EoD I realized that because of voting patterns, where several people voted both people - it was incredibly unlikely we had a scum vig there and wanted to just get enchant hammered to confirm catboi. I can't prove this until my alignment is proven - but I genuinely missed deadline(mainly because of how sparse the vote counts were)

If anyone wants some more specific questions I can answer - except from skitter.

also all of this was from memory - i could craft a better timeline if i went back and looked at the thread -> the timing of how fast i wrote this up should prove though that I didn't do that and this is genuinely from memory and not made up.

[Kaiji]

btw I never said you're playing poorly

I said you're being completely insufferable

my apologies if i said something that felt shutting down - i am autistic and miss cues and directly telling me does help me recalibrate and realize what im doing (which is what im doing now)


as the saying goes - beggars cant be choosers - and if youre one of the only ones even remotely willing to interact and discuss i need to take that and im willing to yield ground here.

I mean more along this vein

The way I learned to play mafia was from a meta where high aggressive play was encourage due to prevalence of tone reading - this is a heavily toned down version of that and I'm trying to be civil/polite/calm at the very least. I won't fake things.

If I think something is fake/incorrect I call it as such.

[Kaiji]

But sure I will keep in mind to tone it down further if possible. I think my hyperposting is more of a problem than how I talk at this point - although thats more of a comment on how hard I'm hyperposting than the latter.

[skitter30]

Ok then i have things to say in post, not much more to say rn

If anyone has questions for me lmk, otherwise yeah

[Kaiji]

FWIW - random thought- I think the galron kill was a mistake from scum.

[Something_Smart]

Man I've seen so many town players who I respect kill their scumreads with civility and a calm tone and I've waited to use this tactic for a long time.

This actually feels kinda awesome.

awe need to kill me before night kill analysis starts pointing against me and towards you, cute <3

6711 aged well.

[Kaiji]

listen, I'm trying my best ):

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Alright well

Give me a bit and I'll go into my final solve and why I'm leaning that way

I think I'm never going to be able to get enough to correct it if I'm wrong

[Kaiji]

Also genuinely I think the reason I have not felt the need to self towncase as hard as before is because I have similarly like alyssa settled on datisi being last scum - and I feel SS is keeping their townread of me to themselves(i hope they townread me lol), catboi is probably internally townreading me but doesnt want to admit it, and alyssa well we know her stance.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

By give me a bit I mean probably until evening time

I'm at work for a good while yet