In post 4099, catboi wrote:I knew this was what was going to happen and we're going to go "eh give it a day" anyway but I'm too annoyed to care anymore
We played “guess what I am talking about without naming it” regarding my slimy thing but it fizzled out because I’m dumb and it’s not really a confirmation which made me sad.
Oh and he got a rare reads post because I misunderstood him.
catboi + skitter + datisi + alyssa + Andante is my current core of town I have progressed to thus far.
In post 4066, Kaiji wrote:i think there's viability for cakez scum as catboi said but I also believe them being town is also viable so yep
midway / cakez / SS could be a team based on what i've read so far and assuming midway flips red, but that feels too simple/easy
In post 4104, Kaiji wrote:I want to commit to one of mena/midway/cakez here - but none of them scream scum to me other than pooky's posts which i could easily be clowning myself on.
i'm like 99% sure andante is town here and midway voting there feels like a lolvote to antispew because theyre locked into being in the awkward position of a claimed doc.
cakez as far as im concerned if theyre hanging on the low of the PoE they aren't going to be useful as town anyways due to their habits of never catching up late game so I'm thinking of trusting this PoE and consolidating here: VOTE: Cakez
In post 4108, Kaiji wrote:I will say that whoever is scum is doing a wonderful job matching the pace needed to avoid scrutiny if my PoE is wrong.
I do think my current solid townreads contains at most 1 scum though. If not, well, I'll be around to reeval later lmao
these are posts i made before skitter made that assertion about my slot
In post 6744, Kaiji wrote:FWIW - random thought- I think the galron kill was a mistake from scum.
to add on to this - I think that the kill was made with mechanics safety in mind rather than how it would benefit their team.
clearly no one here is pushing enchant as town and mare as scum so the idea that there was a planned bus is obviously on the table.
there was no consideration with making a kill to benefit dayplay first when the tracker was going to be on their scum partner who is leading the kill anyways.
just a little insight into how I would have made the kill here -> silence someone i already want silenced rather than mech kill.
after menaslot died though its about 50/50 i kill the tracker or take a gamble so take that how you will.
In post 6758, Mare wrote:Wait so when did you start townreading Pooky then if you weren’t in 4104.
Glad someone asked - I noticed taht when quoting and I remembered it ->
When we were in twilight and cakez was getting flipped, I went through cakez's iso again - and thought that in the cakez town world, pooky actually looks much better and thought the interactions were good and pooky was in their town meta there.
I think it is only to your detriment as a player to not interact with your scumreads. It’s unpleasant for them as a player on a personal level (this happened to me before in Circle of Trust). It’s limiting your ability to read them and perhaps locking yourself in a tunnel if incorrect. If you’re doing it as scum more power to you I guess but even then it’s... harsh and a bit against the spirit of a team game, I dunno.
(And while you can say like, oh Skitter can post and do stuff without talking to me... everyone’s exhausted of this game and we’re on this day because you wanted time, posting and thinking about this right now.. is hard and draining. I think if absolutely nothing else as like, decency as One Person on this site to Another interacting with honey rather than vinegar would be better for the thread’s health as a whole and be more likely to get you the results you want: people posting and doing things.)
Also, another note, on a more... alignment oriented axis. Pointing people to delve into your 700+ post iso to find answers is uh... hm...
I’m leaning towards you as being town despite the Enchant push but it’s a bit up in the air right now and that was a small ping against you, though I do think it was towards Skitter you said that. Help us out a little bit if we ask about stuff you previously said?
(And I recognize you’re doing that still but.. I think you get what I’m saying.)
This might be... hm... the most annoying of my points. But can you explain your Enchant trajectory while *talking about Enchant?*
He was more of a sidelined thing when you explained your D3 reads, a... your read on him was a consequence of other things happening but you scarcely even mention his name. What were your thoughts specifically about him?
I understand that sentiment which is why I've entertained her questions up till now but they've gotten repetitive and clearly aimed to bait answers that serve only to show me in a poor light.
I am interacting - I just am not interacting in the sense of allowing bad faith questions to be thrown at me.
In post 6767, Kaiji wrote:I understand that sentiment which is why I've entertained her questions up till now but they've gotten repetitive and clearly aimed to bait answers that serve only to show me in a poor light.
I am interacting - I just am not interacting in the sense of allowing bad faith questions to be thrown at me.
I really, really don’t think the Enchant questioning is bad faith.
This might be... hm... the most annoying of my points. But can you explain your Enchant trajectory while *talking about Enchant?*
He was more of a sidelined thing when you explained your D3 reads, a... your read on him was a consequence of other things happening but you scarcely even mention his name. What were your thoughts specifically about him?
i thought he was tonally fine which is how i read him in the past - but atp I am realizing that is incorrect and won't be using that at all.
Players like enchant i *do* try to mostly read by reading outside of him first.
at the time i thought he was genuinely town through tone but its a post-evidence realization that I have never consistently read him and I probably just default townread him in games rather than have good reasons.
with a player like enchant i was moreso looking from him to maintain consistency - if something dramatically shifted I was going to be aware of it but i was sticking to my original reads due to that. I mainly said I townread enchant in thread in order to make the push stronger as lack of confidence when pushing something.. doesn't get anything flipped more often than not.
In post 6767, Kaiji wrote:I understand that sentiment which is why I've entertained her questions up till now but they've gotten repetitive and clearly aimed to bait answers that serve only to show me in a poor light.
I am interacting - I just am not interacting in the sense of allowing bad faith questions to be thrown at me.
I really, really don’t think the Enchant questioning is bad faith.
While the questions on their own are fine - it is the intent behind what they are being used for that I do not find in good faith. Your questions are framed in a way that do want to learn my thought process while skitter's are in a way that is like "you townread scum, now help me get you mislimmed with your own words" kind of vibes.
