Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

[Pavowski]

Official Vote Count 4.03

Not Voting

(3): Save The Dragons, Dunnstral, Prism


With 3 employees, it takes 2 to fire.

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-02-10 20:13:14).

Mod notes:

[Save The Dragons]

i think we just have different playstyles and i think that's okay

[Save The Dragons]

the problem is both of you argued that you aren't scum so what exactly am i taking away from the argument

i still find the case on both of you compelling regardless of how fancy your words are or how much either of you deny what i said

[Save The Dragons]

i mean i could go back and be like "i agree with you here you convinced me of X" but i'd still be like "but i don't agree with you here, you haven't convinced me of Y" and we could get in an endless loop of wall posting

i'm not saying the arguments weren't convincing at all or that i was incorrect in my assertions. i painted two pictures and one is completely wrong obviously

[Prism]

I am about to get incredibly vicious, so I'm just going to go back to reading.

If you have a specific concern or further point to make on either slot, I will read and address it, though I am rapidly running out of goodwill. I will sort out the faith of the above another time.

[Save The Dragons]

if prism you are town then i'm confused why me efforting is such a bad thing in your eyes or at least not helping you see me as town when most of what dunnstral's done today is shit on my cases and buddy you some more

paranoid me which i'm trying to shove back into a box says you're doing it to help mislim me today

[Prism]

1603 makes me feel a bit better. I showed several things were factually untrue, and pulled out receipts showing that much of this is bread and butter for me, so seeing the global rejection was incredibly tilting.

[Prism]

Efforting goes a long way towards proving the legitimacy of your own concerns and ideas.

When I have to hound you for them, and clearly communicate it as a

prerequisite for me not voting you

, it loses much of its effect because you are now forced to give it as scum.

Despite this, I recognize that it still comes from a town place, too, and appreciated the walls on both of us and spent a very good chunk of time last night responding to the one on me. I already responded a bit to the one on Dunnstral and will do so, later, as well.

[Save The Dragons]

the efforting i am referring to is my posts all day, not just the walls on the previous page

[Prism]

In that case I don't really know what you expect me to see as town.

Paranoia on me is very foreseeable. I did not like the panic tone of the initial, if I am wrong OK. What I hated was aimlessly spitballing scumworlds without going back and looking.

When I get paranoid, I instantly go check the record and obsess over it. I don't expect everyone to no life it, but I expect this instinct-check/skim the record-to be universal.

[Dunnstral]

im kinda over this game i get it you both aren't scum i don't think that doing the wall posts and getting responses was fruitful for me so if it helped whichever one of you is town, great.

the difference is prism is willing to entertain thoughts i have while dunnstral thinks my prism case is apparently shit so i'm not sure how i'm supposed to go forward with that if dunnstral is town, but scum dunnstral is set on discrediting me from the get go so it makes sense to attack the case. Dunnstral specifically ignored parts of the case to attack specific parts of it so instead of going through and thinking about it, it just looks like he was attacking it. going through dunnstral iso i think there was a lot more that could be construed as having come from scum

"you didn't case me properly" isn't really a town case it's more of a "scum caught for wrong reasons" vibe.

I didn't ignore parts of the case when responding to it.

Your presented evidence does not match there being more in my iso coming from scum - your case on Prism was about the same length.

[Save The Dragons]

[Save The Dragons]

wait i think my point is the exact opposite of that lol

whatever

let me pull up where i didn't see a response

[Save The Dragons]

i think someone who railroaded on todoraki could have known it was a mislim and kept it going with a pedantic argument especially with people sheeping them

then comes a calculated bus on D2, being steadfast on IV without even considering esther (actually you both were like that).

seeing an opportunity to ride on town cred, prism hammers innocent dwlee ending discussion and preventing any second thought from those involved.

finally prism, despite being so town read, doesn't die. does things in the PT thread to make brighter puppy look more town so it makes sense for them to be the kill instead despite their dissonance.

i want to go deeper but i haven't done that quite yet. the point is i can see a web of red strings on a billboard with prism's name on an index card circled in sharpie with ???? after it.

because despite what you've said it just seems more likely it's you

seeing an opportunity to ride on town cred, prism hammers innocent dwlee ending discussion and preventing any second thought from those involved.

I don't see why Prism needs to hammer Dwlee to end discussion. Or rather, how that benefits them.

then comes a calculated bus on D2, being steadfast on IV without even considering esther (actually you both were like that).

I don't think that this is true

[Dunnstral]

Oh, you meant the case on Prism.

The parts I ignored were:

1) Somebody who railroaded on todoraki knew it was a miselim

Well, you also voted for Todoraki and it's not clear to me how what Prism did is worse than what you did.

2) Prism didn't die despite being townread

This one is a valid point

[Save The Dragons]

why haven't you voted me yet

[Dunnstral]

You are still explaining why you think it can be Prism, voting you would deny that.

[Prism]

I have nothing nice to say at the moment, speaking generally about the game.

If, again, anyone has a specific point or hangup on my alignment, I will engage with it. I cannot engage with a refusal to elaborate or a constant refusal to engage with the most basic points, history wrapped up with a bowtie, or comprehensive analysis I present, only to hypocritically flop when the slightest scrutiny is turned back.

[Prism]

That second part got a lot more specific. Whoops.

[Prism]

Malding slightly less having revisited the actual posts and venting but have been malding all day and needed to be passive aggressive for a second, sorry.

[Prism]

Have an interview today that I am prepping for so will be around later.

i want to look over IV's iso and see if i find anything interacty i'm more likely to do that than towncase both of you tbh but if i have time i can take a look

any update on this idea

[Save The Dragons]

we'll see

[Prism]

You have until 36 hours before deadline before I policy you and let Dunnstral blitz. I am tired of holding your hand and teaching you how to play the game while you put off doing anything indefinitely. You have showed exactly one inkling of good faith, and it came when I spent multiple days begging for it and I had to make clear I would vote you for it otherwise. I literally asked Dunnstral

not to clear me

when it seemed likely he would vote and you still flop and cry fucking conspiracy.

I have thought it was Dunnstral for most of the last 72 hours for the no blitz+bus vote making more sense, and want 48 hours to talk about it and grill both of you on your progressions without him capitalizing on fear or you throwing in the face of it.

I actually did shit yesterday and am ready to hit the gas. Absolutely embarrassing performance and complete deadweight.

[Prism]

Will be back around ~7 EST

[Save The Dragons]

im about halfway through but after that shitty post by you i'm almost content letting you lose if your town