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Vote Count 4.01

Not Voting (6):

Andresvmb, Aristeia, Datisi, House, innocentvillager, MathBlade

With 6 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 4 is February 17 at 4:00 PM EST.

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[Aristeia]

Anyone around want to talk?

[House]

Sup?

[Aristeia]

What would you like to talk about?

[House]

I'm an open book!

[House]

That book is Mad Magazine, but still!

[Aristeia]

Why do you townread me again?

[House]

If you seriously want an answer, I'll just quote the post where I answered that question when Math asked me.

The reason hasn't changed.

[Aristeia]

Thanks I would appreciate that

[House]

@House -> Do you townread Ari? Or do you think Dat+Andres is most likely? Why do you feel how you do?

Ari fits nicely in my pocket and gives me warm fuzzies.

Dats has little pointy things that jab me in the leg when I try to put them in my pocket.

I don't trust anyone that is supposedly "zomgexcellent" at endgame but doesn't contribute at all UNTIL endgame.

Can you describe why Ari fits into your pocket and warm fuzzies?

I am kinda scared she might have you tribbled.

I didn't say I was in hers.

I try to pocket players as both alignments. Scum tend to be more apprehensive of my blatant pocket attempts, in my experience.

Ugh let me try this again.

Can you be more concrete in why you townread Ari?

Not that she townreads me, someone who would be easy to get mislimmed, but that she can and does support it in a way that provides an active obstacle TO my elimination.

Kinda like MorningTweet did in the game we were in together. Though the 2 scenarios are obviously not identical, I still get the same vibes.

Looking beyond the, "ooh, this LOOKS bad" and deducing the motives behind my play is ++ town to me.

[House]

Why do you townread me?

[Aristeia]

Some House scum games if you feel like doing reading:


DoaR - Large Theme Large Theme Multiball
Frogs "I hardclaim Masons with Dwlee99"
Radio Buzz Five Post Rep Out
Mini Normal Closest to Applicable here I guess? Mathblade reps into his slot.
The Neighborhood Cult Leader Game


It's a bit of an exaggeration to say it's a five minute read but he does feel different from his other scum games in that I don't really think he goes out of his way to make big-brain plays when he's scum? I did just skim a bit so feel free to do your own work and let me know if I am wrong.

From reading your prior scumgames - I get the feeling that you are less serious and less present in your scum games and you feel like you enjoy playing town more than you enjoy playing scum. I see in several scum games you make excuses about activity to be not around as much but in this game you feel like you actively enjoy participating in the game.

A lot of your "gambits" this game I can see the pro-town motivation behind making them and I don't think it's within your scum range to consistently think of ways to fake-gambit to try to get pro-town outcomes to occur.

I have a bad habit of believing in self-meta when a player vigorously pounds the table about how town they are and it checks out upon a meta-reread.

[Aristeia]

What do you feel our odds of winning this game are?

[House]

What do you feel our odds of winning this game are?

Honestly, not great.

I'm not a fan of widely accepted PoE's because they rarely contain all of the scum.

[House]

Some House scum games if you feel like doing reading:


DoaR - Large Theme Large Theme Multiball
Frogs "I hardclaim Masons with Dwlee99"
Radio Buzz Five Post Rep Out
Mini Normal Closest to Applicable here I guess? Mathblade reps into his slot.
The Neighborhood Cult Leader Game


It's a bit of an exaggeration to say it's a five minute read but he does feel different from his other scum games in that I don't really think he goes out of his way to make big-brain plays when he's scum? I did just skim a bit so feel free to do your own work and let me know if I am wrong.

From reading your prior scumgames - I get the feeling that you are less serious and less present in your scum games and you feel like you enjoy playing town more than you enjoy playing scum. I see in several scum games you make excuses about activity to be not around as much but in this game you feel like you actively enjoy participating in the game.

A lot of your "gambits" this game I can see the pro-town motivation behind making them and I don't think it's within your scum range to consistently think of ways to fake-gambit to try to get pro-town outcomes to occur.

I have a bad habit of believing in self-meta when a player vigorously pounds the table about how town they are and it checks out upon a meta-reread.

See? This is what I mean. This looks like a lot of work that I don't picture scum being willing to do and box themselves into a corner where it would be difficult to flip their read on someone that would otherwise be easy to get rid of.

[House]

Like, I wish Mathblade had this kind of capability.

[Aristeia]

Like, I wish Mathblade had this kind of capability.

It's not that hard to do fake meta research as mafia, you just click on some links and read things?

[MathBlade]

…Sir your sarcasm is showing. Remember Shadowrun and 48 hours of straight posting

Damn that was brutal

*lurks because working*

[Aristeia]

What do you feel our odds of winning this game are?

Honestly, not great.

I'm not a fan of widely accepted PoE's because they rarely contain all of the scum.

So who do you think is the scum that is not in the PoE?

[House]

Like, I wish Mathblade had this kind of capability.

It's not that hard to do fake meta research as mafia, you just click on some links and read things?

Yes, but your read is cementec in those statements and backtracking on them will make it pretty obvious that you didn't believe them when you said them.



Especially when you've made the same points redundantly and built upon them.

It would take some pretty sophisticated hoops to be able to say, "oh, nevermind all that shit I said earlier".

[House]

Like, I wish Mathblade had this kind of capability.

It's not that hard to do fake meta research as mafia, you just click on some links and read things?

Yes, but your read is cemented* in those statements and backtracking on them will make it pretty obvious that you didn't believe them when you said them.



Especially when you've made the same points redundantly and built upon them.

It would take some pretty sophisticated hoops to be able to say, "oh, nevermind all that shit I said earlier".

[Aristeia]

ok but if I am mafia why would I need to reverse my read on you to win the game?

Wouldn't it be simpler to pocket you with a well reasoned townread and then get you to mis-eliminate someone else?

[House]

What do you feel our odds of winning this game are?

Honestly, not great.

I'm not a fan of widely accepted PoE's because they rarely contain all of the scum.

So who do you think is the scum that is not in the PoE?

I was paranoid that iv could be a scum gunsmith put in to find the vig... but that's only likely if he's lying about being even night only, as the only gun scum has to worry about was n2 and the vig would have shot before it could be killed off which doesn't seem legitimate.

Gunsmith seems like a town claim, if it's real. The otherwise lackluster claims suggest it likely is.

So, the PoE is likely legit and I'm just being irrational.

[House]

ok but if I am mafia why would I need to reverse my read on you to win the game?

Wouldn't it be simpler to pocket you with a well reasoned townread and then get you to mis-eliminate someone else?

That's all fine and good until ELo, where I'm the prime elimination target.

[Aristeia]

I don't think you are the prime elimination target, I don't think anyone is even scumreading you?