open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Datisi]

Btw did mare leave any legacy reads?

i said this in my first post of the day...

[Datisi]

Kaiji, what's your read on me?

aight, so, now that enchant is dead and a nightkill has happened, what's your idea of a solve now?

[Kaiji]

yes idk how to prove her trains of thought have been complex/genuine without like teaching the skill of how to read people's thought processes.

i just have a knack for it and if you believe I'm town it should go without saying I'm telling the truth.

[Datisi]

but you see, i don't believe you're town right now, and if we had followed that skill, we would've executed catboi because enchant was apparently obvtown to you so you will have to excuse me if i am Slightly Skeptical of your intentions

[Kaiji]

do you actually find skitter townier than alyssa?

[Datisi]

i haven't seen arguments from skitter that were straight up nonsense, so yeah.

[Something_Smart]

Likely scum if datisi is town.

That's awkward.

Is that just PoE?

[Kaiji]

actually i initially townread catboi because of the same reason i townread alyssa i just felt that catboi, being from the same community I was from, was capable of faking it for periods of times in games and had fallen off once the guilty came out.

idk about you but i pay attention to how a guiltied person acts before and after guilty and thats why my read shifted there because i believed there was a behavioral change that was scummy.

[Kaiji]

i haven't seen arguments from skitter that were straight up nonsense, so yeah.

Is it nonsense that skitter out of convenience said I have to be town if the 1 shot vig was scum because I apparently slipped it wasn't - while I was townreading her - and then once I wasn't flipped it onto me? and once the mena/enchant + catboi 50/50 was established where she, as scum, would know that 1 of them would be confirmed scum, and which one - knew that preemptively pushing me for pushing the wrong side would be easy ammo against me to mislim me?

[Something_Smart]

aight, so, now that enchant is dead and a nightkill has happened, what's your idea of a solve now?

I was trying to decide whether I should keep playing close to my chest but I probably don't need to try and be fancy.

Right now my top two townreads are you and Kaiji, and between catboi and Alyssa I'm more inclined to trust Kaiji on Alyssa, so my tentative solve is skitter/catboi.

[Kaiji]

I'm just confused where you *townread* comes from though.

What about her is towny?

[Datisi]

I have to be town if the 1 shot vig was scum because I apparently slipped it wasn't

it would be appreciated if she were to explain this.

[Datisi]

aight, so, now that enchant is dead and a nightkill has happened, what's your idea of a solve now?

I was trying to decide whether I should keep playing close to my chest but I probably don't need to try and be fancy.

Right now my top two townreads are you and Kaiji, and between catboi and Alyssa I'm more inclined to trust Kaiji on Alyssa, so my tentative solve is skitter/catboi.

you townread me? ... who are you and what have you done to s_s?

[Kaiji]

This is probably kaiji's towngame

At the very least if the vig is scum he absolutely isnt

oh hey look what i found

this was when i was saying i was hard townreading both datisi and skitter btw.

oh right ->

catboi + skitter + datisi + alyssa + Andante is my current core of town I have progressed to thus far.

i think there's viability for cakez scum as catboi said but I also believe them being town is also viable so yep

midway / cakez / SS could be a team based on what i've read so far and assuming midway flips red, but that feels too simple/easy

I want to commit to one of mena/midway/cakez here - but none of them scream scum to me other than pooky's posts which i could easily be clowning myself on.

i'm like 99% sure andante is town here and midway voting there feels like a lolvote to antispew because theyre locked into being in the awkward position of a claimed doc.

cakez as far as im concerned if theyre hanging on the low of the PoE they aren't going to be useful as town anyways due to their habits of never catching up late game so I'm thinking of trusting this PoE and consolidating here: VOTE: Cakez

I will say that whoever is scum is doing a wonderful job matching the pace needed to avoid scrutiny if my PoE is wrong.

I do think my current solid townreads contains at most 1 scum though. If not, well, I'll be around to reeval later lmao

these are posts i made before skitter made that assertion about my slot

just fwiw

[Something_Smart]

you townread me? ... who are you and what have you done to s_s?

If it makes you feel any better it's not due to any of your posts.

[Datisi]

I'm just confused where you *townread* comes from though.

What about her is towny?

i think i vaguely remember... kind of liking her self-meta, the way she was sorting my slot around that time with my own self-meta... and something about her play around menalque? idk i'll check tomorrow.

[Datisi]

you townread me? ... who are you and what have you done to s_s?

If it makes you feel any better it's not due to any of your posts.

oh, right, you actually care about numbers.

i did have a passing thought somewhere whether scum!s_s would really be going against the grain to defend me there... guess it depends who his partner is and how they're positioned.

[Kaiji]

also anyone who knows my scumplay philosophy knows i dont kill quiet players if i dont have to.

quiet players are players i can override via sheer activity, esp since mare was not scumreading me the prior dayphase.

a) i know i dont need to kill galron n3 because I can kill a louder townie and let galron track guilty enchant because they are 100% leading kill there b) what i said above about kill philosophy. i definitely just kill catboi/skitter, the latter prob for chaos value of hiding my last partner whoever it might be

[Kaiji]

also no - i dont fuckin wifom in lategame.

[Kaiji]

i dont want a repeat of pokemon theme game

[Kaiji]

kinda why i let cakez die without reading too hard into him lmfao

kinda sucks tho cuz i was scumreading mena slot at the time

[Datisi]

s_s, why is kaiji town?

[Kaiji]

datisi - removing the fact i said that i said i could read enchant 100% (which demonstratedly i know is false and is proven false with games i can easily pull up, and i only said this to push my read through harder because i believed i was saving the game at the time) - why am i scummy?

Here is the true scenario: I thought catboi was scum guiltied and that no one was believing enchant because of low posting mena and it was easy for scum to push over enchant. catboi seemed like they were just omgusing me/enchant slot and i was being confbiased into that tunnel.

Now - why is that not a valid town theory to you?

[Kaiji]

yknow what maybe u are actually town bc u treated chaosomega a very similar way just for being wrong rofl.

[Kaiji]

I’m also invested in catboi skitter I like some of skitters posts like they vibe with me more but ik she’s rly good too Idk how good she is at scum :3

pedit: what about it?

Skitter's scumplay is so good you'll townread her while sitting in her stomach

VOTE: Skitter

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