open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Kaiji]

whiplash

[Kaiji]

hammer ur partner

skitter had a chance to hammer enchant - they did not here and stalled.

i was pushing to end day here.

I'm indecisive and hate hammering, esp in a potential elo situation. Feel free to look at ... basically any game i was in in elo in to verify that. I always spend abt 10 thousand years being indecisive and not wanting to commit until the last possible moment

Whereas, again, as scum, i am very much aware of optics and how i'd look after the flip of a partner. This is not now i'd treat a partner, and i would not spend 2 weeks dilly-dally-ing knowing he's inevitably getting flipped and knowing how i'd look afterwards. That's just not how i play scum when i have all the answers
When i dont have all the answers i dont have perfect trajectory and look bad, sure

Id argue gaining a mislim without getting your hands particularly dirty is a benefit however, especially if your partner can stick it out deep

[Kaiji]

Ill wait on catboi reaction first.

[skitter30]

I dont think i would be betting the game on enchant going deep, esp. not aftwr he repped into the mess mena left him with

I would have bussed and taken a much firmer stance if i were scum. I didnt because i wasnt 100% sure and i hate deciding things in elo, and i was distracted irl for much of day3 (i.e. preparing for my trip) and coulsnt concentrate as much as i would have liked

[Something_Smart]

If u can clarify y u townread him that would be helpful

I felt like it was pretty obvious, but it's because I don't think Datisi and Pooky deliberately collided.

[skitter30]

I feel like that's a relatively weak point at this stage tbh

[Something_Smart]

Considering that in all the somethingteen times this game has been run scum have never deliberately collided, and that scum have a special tool that could mitigate an intentional collision that they did not make use of, and that Datisi is a pretty risk-averse person (I believe especially as scum?), it doesn't seem all that weak to me.

Certainly beats trying to read all y'all directly.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

lol

[Alyssa The Lamb]

so skitter is >90% sure I'm scum after doing zero critical thought on my alignment for multiple day phases

yeah that's a legit thought process

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm becoming more and more convinced that these kills were planned out in advance rather than decided upon the night they happened

Idk why u keep talking abt this, or why this is important

and what exactly do you mean by "keep talking about this"

[Alyssa The Lamb]

also you're actually fucking nuts if you think I would feel safe having pocketed the single most volatile person in the game

frankly I value pockets very little in general, but I don't expect anyone to believe that offhand

but relying on being townread from the slot that is the most likely to just arbitrarily turn on me (considering HE LITERALLY DID THAT EARLIER IN THE GAME ALREADY) is such a bad play

[skitter30]

so skitter is >90% sure I'm scum after doing zero critical thought on my alignment for multiple day phases

yeah that's a legit thought process

No, i've been leaning that way for a while (iirc i even started day2 i think voting you). Earlier ir was poe, but now you being scum makes at least some of this game make sense

I dont have the full solve yet, but i'm p confident in this one

[skitter30]

I'm becoming more and more convinced that these kills were planned out in advance rather than decided upon the night they happened

Idk why u keep talking abt this, or why this is important

and what exactly do you mean by "keep talking about this"

The nk's, i dont ger what your point is or what you think they indiciate abt the game. Most of them were p obvious, and most scumteams would be making these kills

[skitter30]

also you're actually fucking nuts if you think I would feel safe having pocketed the single most volatile person in the game

frankly I value pockets very little in general, but I don't expect anyone to believe that offhand

but relying on being townread from the slot that is the most likely to just arbitrarily turn on me (considering HE LITERALLY DID THAT EARLIER IN THE GAME ALREADY) is such a bad play

I mean they're townreading you p darn strongly, and if you're scum letting them just do their thing (i.e. misflip me), and encouraging that, is a p clear and obvious winning play

[skitter30]

That was a bad sentence

But basically from my pov: i'm town. I think kaiji is town. Letting kaiji push through a flip on me today gives scum a win, and they're obviously townreading u p strongly.

Leaning into their townread of you and encouraging a flip on me is the obvious and easiest way to win this from scum-you's pov

I dont think your reasons to scumread me are real, you've just been going on abt 'oh i think how skitter is playing this game is weird'

When kaiji started pushing me hard yesterday, you basically threw ur weight behind his solve, with very little critical thought of your own, and *that's exactly how scum-you plays this out*

[skitter30]

Also i'm at the point where eod1 makes no sense if your slot is town
I refuse to believe that there were 4 eod flip-candidates, all of whom were town, and that most of the people doing the pushes were town as well

(Esp. if nsg was town)

[Alyssa The Lamb]

When kaiji started pushing me hard yesterday, you basically threw ur weight behind his solve, with very little critical thought of your own, and *that's exactly how scum-you plays this out*

what

[Alyssa The Lamb]

did I enter a different dimension or something

[skitter30]

Not sure what you're saying

[Alyssa The Lamb]

btw no I don't kill Mare sorry

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Not sure what you're saying

it means that never happened

[Alyssa The Lamb]

was literally anybody except for me believing that Enchant + Datisi were a scumteam up until Kaiji started warming up to it towards the end of the day?

that's literally what I pushed with you as the most likely candidate as the third because I was just townreading everybody else

saying that I just sheeped Kaiji yesterday is almost disturbingly wrong

[skitter30]

Why is ss town to you / why is he not in your solve?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm not townreading him anymore

[skitter30]

What's your solve today then ?

Who do you want to flip?