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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:34 am

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In post 399, wavemode wrote:
In post 395, Scorpious wrote:again, just would like to know where I said this.. I'm dealing with 2 mis reps at the same time and neither of you will acknowledge it.
this is weird, tonally. I struggle to see how this particular statement was of any pain to you. is participating in RVS ending somehow damaging to your reputation?

you participating in ending RVS has nothing to do with me scumreading you (how could it?), I simply said that in the context of the fact that eyes didn't mention it in his townreads

so why is this such a problem you're "dealing with"?

In post 397, Scorpious wrote:I would say so,... Thats a far cry from saying I "literally ended RVS" and using it as an argument as well.

Now I'm wondering if you would have ever corrected it, had I not called you out on it.
Well, no, I wouldn't have. I thought you ended RVS. So thank you for pointing that out to me.

But it doesn't really change the argument. I think eyes could still probably mention the player who said "oops did I end RVS" on page 1 of the game, if he's on a spree of townreading people who like to end RVS. right? is that unreasonable? or at least mention why you were the exception?
395 wasnt exclusively about you.. My issue with yuo was simply a mis rep,and then you using that mis rep to try to further a point. you answered me,as far as I'm concerned, that particular issue is squashed.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:26 pm

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I’m back to town lean on wave..

Just reads honest to me..
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:11 pm

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In post 383, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 379, HockeyFan wrote:I can not for the life of me figure out how to ISO(sorry!), so you can just have the link(this is the site i played on) -> https://mafiascum-closedgame.freeforums ... waterfalls
How can someone who played as mafia and lived till later phases, not know that scum can fake their town play and to look as aggressive and pushy to gain town read, even after it was directly mentioned in the thread as the reason by someone believing that could have been the fake play in response to the same post?

and I mean this post:
In post 170, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 160, fireisredsir wrote:stephen looks a lot worse off that than dwlee does to me. pushing a pointless point and acting like you caught someone in something? hmm. i can see a certain type of scum player doing that, whether because he really thinks he has a point (he doesn't, dwlee is right here) or because he knows that dumb extended fights like that a lot of times will make others skim and assume both are town
I need you to expand on this. Why would Steven do this as scum? He spent 2 pages trying to get an answer for a mostly "mild" sus from Dwlee. If stephen is mafia, he can really just ignore dwlee's read(or play it off), what is the benefit of doing what stephen did as scum there?
I dont think scum do it AS SOON as they rep in and especially on page 3
In post 395, Scorpious wrote:
In post 379, HockeyFan wrote:So, you town read them for thier "syntax", but you are putting them back into null once they start making content? It certainly can't about the misrepping since you said you didnt find that scummy, so waht is it?
again, just would like to know where I said this.. I'm dealing with 2 mis reps at the same time and neither of you will acknowledge it.
I thought you said it was in but I just misread ig, I still think the progression of your wave read is weird

>Call them a townlean for being genuine
>Put them in null for reasons?
>Call them townlean again for thier "honesty' in their posts, but meh for the most part I agree with the read anyways
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:27 pm

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In post 232, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 229, Greeting wrote:
I've played with
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What makes you think that's a townslot?
Alright since 2 ppl haev asked me, i'll say what i found town

seemed like a good clarifcation question and not let Andante pick and choose what they want to see

is towny cuz i mainly agreed with it(and for the most part it was the first REAL vote of the game)

- pretty similar reasoning to why i liked
I mean, fair enough, but like... they have a playstyle that reads as low-effort to me and that makes them hard for me to townread, especially this early in the game.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:31 pm

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In post 254, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 229, Greeting wrote:There are no red flags from me from fireisredsir so far.
fire

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this has been a contentless fluffpost
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:38 pm

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In post 273, Frozen Angel wrote: 1 - I don't agree that it was spamming by the literal meaning. It was reaction hunting from what I saw and I actually liked it.
2 - I can't understand why you think them putting pressure (even if it was unwarranted and without a previous reason) on dwelee scummy. Putting pressure solves slots. how is that a scum doing by nature in your point of view?
3 - Why guilty until proven innocent mindset?

even with the above 3 observations on your read here, I think that this is not busy working and is an actual attempt to make a read. anyways need to check its consistency yet.
I got nothing of the argument other than the fact that it happened itself, so I guess we differ in that regard. That's the answer for 1 and 2.

As for 3, because this time I'm trying to put in actual pressure. While playing a character playing mafia can be entertaining, it's also easy to hide behind.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:45 pm

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Scorpious
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My gut tells me it's because of
Stephen A Smith
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:15 pm

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In post 406, Greeting wrote:
Scorpious
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My gut tells me it's because of
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Does them being enthusiastic about this game affect your read on them?
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:23 pm

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Well I know this is going to bring a lot of heat my way but I should let you all know I tend to suspect replacements more. I guess it was DGB (if memory serves me right) that once said if we eliminate all replacements town always wins (or something to that effect).

Anyway welcome FA.

Also @Andante I do appreciate the townread but something tells me I have yet to earn it. Do you tend to townread people who townread you?
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:48 pm

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@Greeting, current opinions on waveform and hockeyfan?
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:02 pm

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bruh... I caught up. now I'm 100 posts behind again
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:03 pm

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In post 408, Eyes without a face wrote:Do you tend to townread people who townread you?
yeah
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:18 pm

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In post 408, Eyes without a face wrote:Well I know this is going to bring a lot of heat my way but I should let you all know I tend to suspect replacements more. I guess it was DGB (if memory serves me right) that once said if we eliminate all replacements town always wins (or something to that effect).

Anyway welcome FA.

Also @Andante I do appreciate the townread but something tells me I have yet to earn it. Do you tend to townread people who townread you?
yes, I am gonna give u heat for it(I think its a terrible strat), but what is the thought process behind this? Replacments do NOT only happen because of someone not liking their role
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:34 pm

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Maybe not but statistically scum replace out more than town do and especially so at the start of the game. Someone who doesn't like to play scum or someone who didn't like their teammates or someone who thought one of their own are going down too early. I do not promote it to be a 100% plan but early replacement have a higher %age of being scum than you would expect.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:36 pm

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eyes, is that the only thought you have on the thread? more please, give some opinions on people at least
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:38 pm

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I already did and fa didn't like it.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:40 pm

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ha ha, funny joke, post content or im voting you
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:45 pm

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threats don't work with me. go ahead and vote me if it makes you feel better
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:17 pm

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it's not a threat, i'm kindly letting you know in advance how my opinions of your slot will evolve if you continue. if you refuse to play the game then there's no reason to think you're town. and no, debating about whether replacements are statistically more likely to be scum slots does not count as playing the game

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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:44 pm

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In post 402, HockeyFan wrote:I dont think scum do it AS SOON as they rep in and especially on page 3
well if that is your real opinion, never underestimate people capabilities in pretending their town game when they are mafia
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:46 pm

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In post 408, Eyes without a face wrote:Well I know this is going to bring a lot of heat my way but I should let you all know I tend to suspect replacements more. I guess it was DGB (if memory serves me right) that once said if we eliminate all replacements town always wins (or something to that effect).

Anyway welcome FA.

Also @Andante I do appreciate the townread but something tells me I have yet to earn it. Do you tend to townread people who townread you?
Do you always go after replacements in your games?
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:54 pm

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In post 415, Eyes without a face wrote:I already did and fa didn't like it.
Well, it's a weird take and absolutely wrong especially for people who got forced replaced by a mod before even posting once, and maybe only would work if it was a trust tell for that said player. It's like saying it's more probable that a coin will always fall on its head side. and you saying it the way you did, especially since we had multiple replace in this same game (Dwlee99, Nero Cain, Stephan) and you only mentioned me, so makes me wonder

Do you have actual reasoning for your suspicion or was it just that?
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:00 pm

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In post 411, Andante wrote:
In post 408, Eyes without a face wrote:Do you tend to townread people who townread you?
yeah
oh and what
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:01 pm

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VOTE: Eyes without a face
This kill the replacement thing is silly and I don't like it
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:19 pm

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In fairness, there actually is a theory that most replace outs are done by scum but bringing it up is dumb
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